Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems

2004-03-25 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 03:49:00PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: I was going to go for a stage3 install just to try it out. But that leads me to another question... instead of syncing and having to compile all kinds of stuff as the install gets old, can I just grab the new stage3 packages, say,

Re: [eug-lug]OT: Searching for good A+ Certification manual

2004-03-25 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 04:37:17PM -0800, Jason Dommasch wrote: I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good A+ Certification prep manual. Search on google for online a+ certification tests and tutorials. That's what I used to get mine. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek

Re: [eug-lug]Mouse scroll wheel stoped working after 2.6 kernel upgrade

2004-03-24 Thread Bob Crandell
I have the same situation with my laptop except it's kernel 2.6.0. The ZAxisMapping was missing from XF86Config and I added it back in. Still no joy. Keep us posted. I was just getting ready to upgrade the kernel on my desktop when I saw your message. Now I'm going to wait. Thanks jgw

RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-24 Thread Master O Planets
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of happy life skills foundation Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:35 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]HELLO! YES that would be GREAT Stick my name on it and i'll come by and get

Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems

2004-03-24 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 01:36:43PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: I tried to install Gentoo on my laptop last night but my CDROM is flaky... sometimes it can read from it but sometimes it fails. The bad part is when doing something like mke2fs and it fails, then something (bash?) remembers that

Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems

2004-03-24 Thread Bob Crandell
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SNIP Also, I wouldn't recommend gentoo for a laptop. Long compiling times will heat up the laptop more than it was designed for. Cory Folding makes it hot too. ; -- Assured Computing, Inc. When you need to be sure. http://www.assuredcomp.com/

Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems

2004-03-24 Thread Rob Hudson
On 20040324.1518, Cory Petkovsek said ... What's on the laptop right now? If it is any distribution of linux, just do a bootstrap install over the network. The gentoo install howto will tell you how to. ;) Well, I *used to* have Debian on it. It was in a bad state so I thought I'd try

Re: [eug-lug]OT: Searching for good A+ Certification manual

2004-03-24 Thread Mr O
Hey, come to think of it, I haven't seen my book in some time. I wonder if the guy who borrowed it is still around. If it counts.. I went for the red one. I don't remember exactly which publisher but I skimmed through it over a month's time and took my tests. The tests have gotten easier since

Re: [eug-lug]OT: Searching for good A+ Certification manual

2004-03-24 Thread Jason
Jason: It's been awhile (1998), but when I did it, the Exam Cram book was pretty helpful. Jason --- Jason Dommasch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation for a good A+ Certification prep manual. ___ EuG-LUG

Re: [eug-lug]Looking for a PCMCIA Ethernet card

2004-03-24 Thread Mr O
I think we have a cardbus one at work for sale. You're welcome to bring your laptop by and try it. --- Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have a Linux compatible PCMCIA Ethernet card they'd like to unload? 10 Mbit/sec is fine. Alternately, who in town sells them?

Re: [eug-lug]gentoo install problems

2004-03-24 Thread Mr O
HA!! Overclocking, folding, and compiling while playing a game keeps a CPU really warm ;-) --- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: SNIP Also, I wouldn't recommend gentoo for a laptop. Long compiling times will heat up the laptop more than

Re: [eug-lug]Mouse scroll wheel stoped working after 2.6 kernel upgrade

2004-03-24 Thread Mr O
I still use this optical mouse on PS/2 and it has worked fine on every kernel so far. I haven't gone 2.6 on my Shuttle yet (w/Slack 9.1) because I use USB keyboard and mouse and the 2.6 USB boot stuff has changed to I don't know what. --- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the same

Re: [eug-lug]Looking for a PCMCIA Ethernet card

2004-03-24 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Wed, Mar 24, 2004 at 10:20:11AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Anyone have a Linux compatible PCMCIA Ethernet card they'd like to unload? 10 Mbit/sec is fine. Alternately, who in town sells them? Staples does, though probably only Linksys and Netgear. I don't even think they sell them at the

RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-23 Thread baggab
I have a external US robotics 56K modem without the AC/DC adaptor (transformer) for you. These are relatively easy to come by (9 V 1000 mA output.) Maybe someone on the list has the other half. I will pass it along to EFN if you want it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-23 Thread Mr O
A universal adapter will work too. Just don't try finding what I need. DC 24V 1.2A! Nobody in town has that but Radio Hack, Norvac, WalMart, and others have the universals for as little as $10. --- baggab [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a external US robotics 56K modem without the AC/DC

Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-23 Thread Bob Miller
Okay, if everybody is giving away external 56K modems, I'd like one. It'd be handy for emergencies (when the DSL goes out). Thanks. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug] Networking 2 UNIX variants : SAMBA on Mac X Linux?

2004-03-23 Thread Harald Sundt
Thanks for helping a Criminally End User use a OX (UNIX) with some power. Hal Crossover cable, ifconfig eth0 192.168.?.? up for each machine. Deciding how to move file between boxes leaves alot open for debate. I personally use NFS and Samba between my boxes. Yup, Mr O. --- Leo Rivers [EMAIL

Re: [eug-lug]CD Burning via IDE/ATAPI

2004-03-23 Thread Rob Hudson
On 20040322.1507, Jacob Meuser said ... On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:07:15PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: According to the 2.6.x kernels, using ide-scsi isn't the way to go anymore when burning discs. I've compiled my kernel so the burner is in IDE/ATAPI mode, but can't seem to burn images like

Re: [eug-lug] Networking WHY is SSP NOT compatible with Panther?

2004-03-23 Thread Harald Sundt
Networking 2 UNIX variants : Mac OS X and Linux (S.u.S.E. 9.0) - WHY is SSP NOT compatible with Panther? Any work-arounds? Thanks Hal QUOTE : SSP is NOT compatible with Panther : UNQUOTE http://xamba.sourceforge.net/index.shtml Original Message: Networking 2 UNIX variants : Mac OS X and

RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-23 Thread happy life skills foundation
YES that would be GREAT Stick my name on it and i'll come by and get it...thanks! ken On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, baggab wrote: I have a external US robotics 56K modem without the AC/DC adaptor (transformer) for you. These are relatively easy to come by (9 V 1000 mA output.) Maybe someone on

Re: [eug-lug] Networking WHY is SSP NOT compatible with Panther?

2004-03-23 Thread Roger
Around Tue,Mar 23 2004, at 01:31, Harald Sundt, wrote: Networking 2 UNIX variants : Mac OS X and Linux (S.u.S.E. 9.0) - WHY is SSP NOT compatible with Panther? Any work-arounds? Did you ask the guy that used to spend his time developing why he chooses not to make it compatible? Apple

Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread happy life skills foundation
hi again! i tried to look in my setups for the chipset. the whole thing is a CMOS setup, by Award software. i looked under chipset features but didnt' see a brand name or anything. if i need to get a modem what should i get? thanks! ken On Sun, 21 Mar 2004, Mr O wrote: What kind of modem? What

Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread Larry Price
to help debug this you will probably need to supply the following info the output of dmesg (excerpt the line where it says something about your modem) the output of lsmod so that we know what kernel drivers are already loaded You should also make sure you can find thhe modem configurator

RE: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread Grigsby, Garl
hi again! i tried to look in my setups for the chipset. the whole thing is a CMOS setup, by Award software. i looked under chipset features but didnt' see a brand name or anything. If you go to the Other OS you can list the properties. That should tell you what model it is. if i need

Re: [eug-lug]CD Burning via IDE/ATAPI

2004-03-22 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 02:07:15PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote: According to the 2.6.x kernels, using ide-scsi isn't the way to go anymore when burning discs. I've compiled my kernel so the burner is in IDE/ATAPI mode, but can't seem to burn images like I used to be able to. I can detect my

Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-22 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Mon, Mar 22, 2004 at 01:24:08PM -0800, happy life skills foundation wrote: hi again! i tried to look in my setups for the chipset. the whole thing is a CMOS setup, by Award software. i looked under chipset features but didnt' see a brand name or anything. if i need to get a modem what

Re: [eug-lug] Networking 2 UNIX variants : Mac OS X and Linux (S.u.S.E. 9.0)

2004-03-22 Thread Mr O
Crossover cable, ifconfig eth0 192.168.?.? up for each machine. Deciding how to move file between boxes leaves alot open for debate. I personally use NFS and Samba between my boxes. Yup, Mr O. --- Leo Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Networking 2 UNIX variants : Mac OS X and Linux (S.u.S.E. 9.0)

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-21 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:15:02AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: What is the limit on streams? I still would like to know the max stream count. Is it file descriptors? If so what is that, 65535? So I could use 'echo blah 65535' (didn't seem to work)? bash$

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-21 Thread Bob Miller
Jacob Meuser wrote: #!/bin/sh TEMPDIR=`mktemp -d` while read addr junk do dom=`echo $addr | cut -d '@' -f 2` echo $addr OK $TEMPDIR/$dom done MYDIR=`pwd` cd $TEMPDIR for i in * do sort $i echo $i REJECT done cd $MYDIR rm -rf $TEMPDIR exit 0

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-21 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sun, Mar 21, 2004 at 12:07:29AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: #!/bin/sh TEMPDIR=`mktemp -d` while read addr junk do dom=`echo $addr | cut -d '@' -f 2` echo $addr OK $TEMPDIR/$dom done MYDIR=`pwd` cd $TEMPDIR for i in * do sort

Re: [eug-lug]HELLO!

2004-03-21 Thread Christopher Forsythe
I have an external modem, it works wonders. Connects through a serial port, works with anything, plus I can use it for troubleshooting. I'd recommend springing for the extra dough if you are going to be forced to use dialup, as I also got better connection speeds with it, and used less

Re: [eug-lug]freebsd mv symlink moves linked dir?!

2004-03-20 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:46:41PM -0801, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:37:37PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Here I figured out more specifics. linux client/solaris nfs: $ ls -l lrwxrwxrwx1 cory cory7 Mar 18 21:31 burn - ../burn drwxr-xr-x3

Re: [eug-lug] Unix/Linux Optimization- ProgramsNeed for?

2004-03-20 Thread Jim K
I am not sure what you mean by optimization hdparm will allow you to control ATA/IDE disk parameters. Warning make a bootdisk before using. If you mean defragging Harald Sundt wrote: In Unix/Linux is there a need for Optimization and which are the best programs for this? I come from a

Re: [eug-lug] Unix/Linux Optimization- ProgramsNeed for?

2004-03-20 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 11:53:47AM -0800, Harald Sundt wrote: In Unix/Linux is there a need for Optimization and which are the best programs for this? I come from a traditional Mac Background. I run a Mac Household. There optimizing really helped. The work I've done for clients (I am a

Re: [eug-lug] I guess I mean Defragmentation- ProgramsNeed for?

2004-03-20 Thread Bob Crandell
Here is one Googled response: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/1/2003/10/4/93224 Harald Sundt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: As per subject line. Forgive my weak SysAdmin skills ;) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]freebsd mv symlink moves linked dir?!

2004-03-20 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:44:22AM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: $ ls -l pub lrwxrwxrwx1 cory cory7 Mar 18 21:31 burn - ../burn so, pub/burn ends up pointing to burn, which does not exist, correct? It continues to point to ../burn in this case. pub/../burn or

Re: [eug-lug] Unix/Linux Optimization- ProgramsNeed for?

2004-03-20 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:58:52PM -0800, T. Joseph Carter wrote: Windows' optimizing involves defragmenting the drive. It also involves cleaning out the continually accumulating crap from the registry. There are a few programs that do this, but the best method is reinstall. Unix systems don't

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-20 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:15:02AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: What is the limit on streams? I still would like to know the max stream count. Is it file descriptors? If so what is that, 65535? So I could use 'echo blah 65535' (didn't seem to work)? This seems like a task that is simple in

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-20 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:15:02AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: This seems like a task that is simple in Python or Perl, but less simple as a shell script. #!/usr/bin/env python import fileinput users = {} for line in fileinput.input(): addr = line.strip() domain =

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread Bob Crandell
I'm having trouble getting Sendmail to understand I want it to talk to SpamassMilter. In poking around looking for an answer, I got to thinking that Procmail is already filtering the way I want. How do I have Procmail forward this filtered email to another box in the same domain? This section

Re: [eug-lug]stream limits? or algorithm help

2004-03-19 Thread Bob Miller
Cory Petkovsek wrote: What is the limit on streams? Here's what I'm intending to do and perhaps someone has a better solution: I have a list of email addresses for a virtual email host: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want

Re: [eug-lug]combining shell streams

2004-03-19 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 08:07:24PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 03:13:09PM -0800, Jason wrote: I am an awk user by habit and would usually do an: $ awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd for this, but cut saves some typing and seems more logical for these cases

Re: [eug-lug]freebsd mv symlink moves linked dir?!

2004-03-19 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:16:59PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Over a solaris nfs, in freebsd I told it to mv a symlink to another directory. However the linked directory was moved into the target dir instead of the symlink. What's up with that?! Hm, client$ uname OpenBSD client$ mount -t

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 04:42:26PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I'm having trouble getting Sendmail to understand I want it to talk to SpamassMilter. In poking around looking for an answer, I got to thinking that Procmail is already filtering the way I want. How do I have Procmail forward this

Re: [eug-lug]Internet Annoyances Needed for New Book

2004-03-19 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 10:30:33AM -0800, Marsee Heon wrote: Dear User Group Leader: [.. noting that this is a UNIX group ..] Pictureless Pages Predicament [.. pages without loaded images, here are fixes ..] * Internet Explorer may be configured so that it doesn't show pictures,

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread Bob Crandell
T. Joseph Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 04:42:26PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: I'm having trouble getting Sendmail to understand I want it to talk to SpamassMilter. In poking around looking for an answer, I got to thinking that Procmail is already filtering the

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:53:02PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Dropping the X-Spam-Status header requires that you do a bunch of pipes. Just sending the message on would be :0--- no need to lock * ^X-Spam-Status:.*Yes--- technically you should have .* not

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:49:02PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Also, with procmail, I used ! to forward mail: Cory's right and I'm apparently on drugs today. ;) ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-19 Thread Bob Crandell
T. Joseph Carter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:53:02PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Dropping the X-Spam-Status header requires that you do a bunch of pipes. Just sending the message on would be :0--- no need to lock *

Re: [eug-lug]freebsd mv symlink moves linked dir?!

2004-03-19 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:37:37PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: Here I figured out more specifics. linux client/solaris nfs: $ ls -l lrwxrwxrwx1 cory cory7 Mar 18 21:31 burn - ../burn drwxr-xr-x3 cory cory 512 Mar 19 2004 pub $ ls -ld ../burn

Re: [Eug-lug]Notebook LAN

2004-03-18 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:41:26AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Although it's not immediately clear to me if it can work w/o cable detection support, you might want to checkout ifplugd: http://www.stud.uni-hamburg.de/users/lennart/projects/ifplugd/ Thank you. I just installed ifplugd

Re: [eug-lug]Question: video email

2004-03-18 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:04:07PM -0800, Ken Barber wrote: I suppose that my friend will make a small pile of money. I doubt that he'll make significant money over the long term, but I always seem to underestimate people's capacity for stupidity. Maybe, as he predicts, next year there

Re: [eug-lug]combining shell streams

2004-03-18 Thread Jason
That's pretty sweet Cory. Thanks for the brief cut tutorial as well: - cut -f 1 -d : file, means print the first column, delimited by : I am an awk user by habit and would usually do an: $ awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd for this, but cut saves some typing and seems more logical for these

Re: [eug-lug]combining shell streams

2004-03-18 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 03:13:09PM -0800, Jason wrote: I am an awk user by habit and would usually do an: $ awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd for this, but cut saves some typing and seems more logical for these cases where you don't need to do selective (regex) printing. What you typed is

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-16 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 03:37:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: What does your Mon alert look like? Pretty simple. Here is the alert sans comments: --- #!/bin/sh if [ $1 == ]; then echo Usage: $0 service_name echo Returns 0 if service found, 1 otherwise echo Uses \`ps\` command

Re: [eug-lug] How does Netscape compare to Mozilla in Mac OS X and Linux/Unix?

2004-03-16 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 11:11:37AM -0800, Harald Sundt wrote: How does Netscape compare to Mozilla in Mac OS X and Linux/Unix? In linux/unix, netscape 4.x sucks. Mozilla has finally gotten pretty cool and MozillaFirebird, now Firefox rocks. This is interms of speed and over all quality and

Re: [eug-lug] How does NS and Safari compare to Moz in Mac OS X?

2004-03-16 Thread Christopher Forsythe
Have you looked at thunderbird? What about unison do you think is not quite there? Have you tried halime? (newsreader) Do you have xfree86/x11 installed? If so, have you tried pan? Exactly what features do you need in a mail client? (pop, imap, exchange, etc., etc.) What version of os x?

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-15 Thread Bob Crandell
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:28:48PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: 1) Postfix+amavisd-new+spamassassin on one server 2) default exchange 5.5 on another server 3) script that dumps ldap entries from exchange to a text file that postfix reads.

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-15 Thread Bob Crandell
Have you configured spamass-milter? I've read through some of the docs and it makes me feel dense. Thanks Larry Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: there is a milter to call spamassassin On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: It's amazing how great minds think alike.

Re: [eug-lug] How does Netscape compare to Mozilla in Mac OS X and Linux/Unix?

2004-03-15 Thread John Sechrest
What criteria would you like to compare it on? Size Performance Widgets? Versions? Features? Harald Sundt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % How does Netscape compare to Mozilla in Mac OS X and Linux/Unix? % ___ % EuG-LUG mailing list % [EMAIL

Re: [eug-lug] How does Netscape compare to Mozilla in Mac OS X and Linux/Unix?

2004-03-15 Thread Jason
For performance, I would rate Mozilla as a bit faster. Safari is of course faster than both, the only reason I was using either Mozilla or Netscape on OS X was their compatibility with SOCKS v4 proxies and for general browser interoperability testing. Also, both Navigator and Mozilla have

Re: [eug-lug]Corvallis Clinic

2004-03-15 Thread Bob Miller
Jason Dommasch wrote: If there are still seats available, I'll hitch a ride. When were you planning on leaving? Oops, I saw your mail too late (just now). Sorry. I'm glad you made it up anyway. Our car was full with Anne, Ben, Larry and me. -- Bob Miller

Re: [eug-lug] How does NS and Safari compare to Moz in Mac OS X?

2004-03-15 Thread John Sechrest
Harald Sundt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % I have e-mail (Eudora) % and news-reading (Thoth Mac X - but discontinued - Unison not quite there..) Ok. Basic services here. % covered % but what I would like to know is Java stability, ability to move % along children, please, and would

Re: [eug-lug]solaris nfs/autofs/cachefs (was: second NIC for dedicated connection)

2004-03-14 Thread Jason
--- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And finally, I also have the option of cachefs. What is that good for? cachefs can sit on top of/supplements nfs. In my experience, it's most useful for slow and/or unreliable links (similar situations web caches are good for), though I guess there's

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-13 Thread Ken Barber
On Friday 12 March 2004 21:27, T. Joseph Carter wrote: You realize that the reason I stopped signing mail was that NO VERSION of MS Outlook can handle any standard method of PGP signature correctly, right? No, I wasn't aware of that. I'm also a little puzzled by your news, since it worked

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-13 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 08:44:47AM -0800, Ken Barber wrote: You realize that the reason I stopped signing mail was that NO VERSION of MS Outlook can handle any standard method of PGP signature correctly, right? No, I wasn't aware of that. I'm also a little puzzled by your news, since

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-13 Thread Mr O
All is fine. I didn't have the interfaces line in my smb.conf. That, and samba was being stupid until I did /usr/bin/smbd. The interface works fine for NFS and SMB now with only one little bit of trouble. Haven't searched thoroughly to see if it's a client or server thing but I've seen posts on

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 11:55:36PM -0800, Jason wrote: I think the most interesting point is that, while a good background of the problem and proposed solutions is given, it seems there really is no good answer currently. The author does make mention of Sender Permitted From

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-12 Thread John Sechrest
Until there is some form of authentication for mail, this arms race will continue. Sender Permitted is an interesting step, since it is generally hard for DNS changes. However, it is not the end of the arms race. It makes the security flaws in DNS become a target. And if it is possible to

Re: [eug-lug]Last chance for old equipment

2004-03-12 Thread Jim Beard
I might be interested in Assorted rack trays... Any sliding keyboard holders? Jim On Thursday, March 11, 2004, at 12:09 PM, Larry Price wrote: 7 foot Chatsworth racks Lucent Portmaster PM-3's Assorted rack trays, monitor enclosures and possibly a surly bofh or two No reasonable offers

Re: [eug-lug]Last chance for old equipment

2004-03-12 Thread Larry Price
The trays are steel and aluminum and attach to a standard 19 rack we don't have any standard rackmount pullout keyboard trays that aren't in current use. we do have this monster double wide shelf/cage thing that has 4 keyboard shelves that we might be willing to part with. (we need the space

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-12 Thread Ken Barber
On Friday 12 March 2004 06:46, John Sechrest wrote: Until there is some form of authentication for mail, this arms race will continue. You know, we could kill spam tomorrow if we could just convince people to set up use PGP, and then drop all non-PGP-encrypted stuff at the MX. It's a

Re: [eug-lug]Semi-interesting SPAM articles

2004-03-12 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 12, 2004 at 04:23:23PM -0800, Ken Barber wrote: I'd ask John Sechrest to set up the MX at PEAK to reject all non-PGP mail coming to me tomorrow... ... IF I could only convince enough people out there to adopt this solution that already has RFCs in place. You realize that the

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-12 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:28:48PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: 1) Postfix+amavisd-new+spamassassin on one server 2) default exchange 5.5 on another server 3) script that dumps ldap entries from exchange to a text file that postfix reads. Easy as one, two, three. Bob, I'm actually in the

Re: [eug-lug]Corvallis Clinic

2004-03-12 Thread Jason Dommasch
At 05:42 PM 3/3/04, Bob Miller wrote: John Sechrest wrote: The Mid-Willamette Valley Linux User's Group will be sponsoring an installfest/Clinic Saturday 13 March 2004. I'm planning to go to this event. Any Eugenians want a ride? -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-11 Thread Christopher Forsythe
Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0600, Christopher Forsythe wrote: y correct. Active directory is based on ldap, and exchange 2000 is dependent on active directory. Exchange is also an active directory aware system. Now if this person were to be using exchange 5.5

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-11 Thread Bob Crandell
What he said. Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:48:20AM -0800, Jason wrote: Maybe a dumb question, but why does the customer want a separate box vs. installing something like netiq's mailmarshal right on the Exchange box? The customer probably wants a

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-11 Thread Mr O
Okay, NFS works fine now but I still have to tweak my smb.conf some more I guess. FS says samba is running, is 139 the default port? Because I don't see it listed though everything else is listening on all ports. route -an? Seems to not like that switch. ifconfig is proper because I assigned the

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-11 Thread Jason
Hey: --- Cory Petkovsek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The customer probably wants a solution, not necessarily a separate box. How much does mailmarshall cost? I tried to find out, but apparently it costs too much to put the price tag on the website. No, my question was more to the separate

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-11 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: route -an? Seems to not like that switch. Try netstat -an . Better, netstat -antu . -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-11 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 09:30:43AM -0800, Mr O wrote: Okay, NFS works fine now but I still have to tweak my smb.conf some more I guess. FS says samba is running, is 139 the default port? Because I don't see it listed though everything else is listening on all ports. Where is the output to

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. What I was planning on putting in was Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and forward mail server. My

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Forsythe
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: LDAP is built in to exchange. Cory Not totally correct. Active directory is based on ldap, and exchange 2000 is dependent on active directory. Exchange is also an active directory aware system. Now if this person were to be using

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Bob Crandell
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. What I was planning on putting in was

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Jason
Maybe a dumb question, but why does the customer want a separate box vs. installing something like netiq's mailmarshal right on the Exchange box? Is the Exchange box the mx? (I hope not) Is this solution being planned for the mx? This is what I'd tend to recommend (anti-spam on either the mx or

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Ken Barber
On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, One of my clients is asking for a SPAM filter for his Exchange server. No wise cracks. He's stuck and he knows it. What I was planning on putting in was Sendmail/Procmail/SpamAssassin store and forward mail

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Bob Crandell
I'm wanting a stand alone box more than he is. The Exchange server is SBS 2000 and is barely keeping up. My goal is to use them as a test bed to build a generic box that I can clone and plug into anybody's site and have it just work. The Exchange box is the mx. The spam filter is to become the

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Jason
Ah, SBS and Exchange is the mx. Zoinks! or, alternately, Yikes! Good plan for the spam/mx box; keep us posted (sorry I don't have any other assistance). J --- Bob Crandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wanting a stand alone box more than he is. The Exchange server is SBS 2000 and is barely

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-10 Thread John Sechrest
Any chance you have ipchains or IPtables running? Mr O [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % I've added a second NIC to my fileserver and gamebox for % dedicated connections. I can SSH into the fileserver over the % dedicated connection but I can't connect via samba or NFS. I've % already changed

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 08:49:57AM -0600, Christopher Forsythe wrote: On Sun, Mar 07, 2004 at 11:02:39PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: LDAP is built in to exchange. Cory Not totally correct. Active directory is based on ldap, and exchange 2000 is dependent on active directory. Exchange is

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:48:20AM -0800, Jason wrote: Maybe a dumb question, but why does the customer want a separate box vs. installing something like netiq's mailmarshal right on the Exchange box? The customer probably wants a solution, not necessarily a separate box. How much does

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:09:27PM -0800, Mr O wrote: I've added a second NIC to my fileserver and gamebox for dedicated connections. I can SSH into the fileserver over the dedicated connection but I can't connect via samba or NFS. I've already changed my /etc/hosts, hosts.allow, smb.conf, and

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-10 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 06:54:02PM +, Bob Crandell wrote: Hi, I don't have LDAP installed anywhere. So what you're saying is I need to install the users on the spam filter box in order for it to filter the mail that passes through it? Not a big deal but I was hoping against it.

Re: [eug-lug]second NIC for dedicated connection

2004-03-10 Thread Larry Price
route -an fs:ifconfig -a gbox:ifconfig -a list routes on both boxes are you sure that ssh is in fact going over the dedicated connection? On Wednesday, March 10, 2004, at 09:09 PM, Mr O wrote: I've added a second NIC to my fileserver and gamebox for dedicated connections. I can SSH into

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-08 Thread Bob Crandell
It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this intermediate box filter mail without having to create users. Ok, I don't need Procmail. How do I call SpamAssassin directly from Sendmail? Thanks John

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-08 Thread John Sechrest
There are spamassassin filters and packages that can be put straight into the config. I think it is all built around milter. There are some standard examples of how to do this floating around. I don't have my fingers on one, but I have read at least two discussions of how to do it. Bob

Re: [eug-lug]Store and Forward

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
there is a milter to call spamassassin On Monday, March 8, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Bob Crandell wrote: It's amazing how great minds think alike. This is exactly what I'm trying to do. What I'm not sure of is the how to part. How to have this intermediate box filter mail without having to create

Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes

2004-03-08 Thread Bob Crandell
I'd like to know this too. My laptop says it can't find a Mozilla icon and I can't find it either nor can I find any reference to it in any of the Gnome config files I can find. Rob Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Any gnome users here? Now that Debian has Gnome 2.4 I wanted to give it a

Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes

2004-03-08 Thread Larry Price
you might want to check out GARNOME http://www.gnome.org/~jdub/garnome/ It's a set of build scripts used by (among others ) the gnome UI usability people the lnx-bbc people are quite fond of it. I've had my own adventures with gnome lately which showed up some limitations of the ports system

Re: [eug-lug]clearing out old gnomes

2004-03-08 Thread Rob Hudson
Yep, I've tried garnome... that's why I have leftover cruft I want to get ride of. I was trying 2.4 before it made it into Debian testing. But now that Debian has it via apt-get, I want to clear the slate and start fresh. In fact, after trying some more, it still brings up my background and

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