Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-19 Thread George Tyler via EV
not run it yet to check, but reports say efficiency is similar to running a Honda generator when it's needed. -Original Message- From: EV On Behalf Of Peter VanDerWal via EV Sent: Monday, 18 October 2021 1:10 pm To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Peter VanDerWal Subject: Re: [EVDL] HV DC i

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-18 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Mon Oct 18 21:31:42 PDT 2021 ev@lists.evdl.org said: >What can a PV panel do that can impact the function of an inverter? >A PV panel is just a Diode and current source with a bypass diode on them? It's the MPP controller on the inverter that can get confused. They try to load the panel down

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-18 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
What can a PV panel do that can impact the function of an inverter? A PV panel is just a Diode and current source with a bypass diode on them? On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 3:33 PM Willie via EV wrote: > They are very nice and cost effective grid tie inverters if your panels > work well with

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/17/21 8:22 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: On Sun Oct 17 17:09:32 PDT 2021 e...@vanderwal.us said: Won't work for an inverter off my truck pack, as it's only 320v. Won't work with the 'battery' connection, but you could hook you truck battery to the PV input. In order to get the

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On Sun Oct 17 17:09:32 PDT 2021 e...@vanderwal.us said: >> Won't work for an inverter off my truck pack, as it's only 320v. > >Won't work with the 'battery' connection, but you could hook you truck battery >to the PV input. >In order to get the battery connection to work you'd have to hack the

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
From what I understand, anything up to 6kw is available IF you panels are putting out at least that much. Solarcity is still alive, but it's now owned by Tesla. WHen they got bought out they came out with a new inverter, that I beleive is designed to work with the PowerWalls. They aren't

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
> They are still available on Ebay for $400. Darn nice price for a 6KW inverter. > Does appear to have a split-phase 240, 120/120 output. > Dual Solar panel (200v-500v) inputs. > I went digging around the specs, and it appears that battery input needs at > least 400V. > I found various

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Tom Hudson via EV
input -to- 120VDC output inverter??? On 17 Oct 2021 at 12:20, John Lussmyer via EV wrote:> it appears that battery input needs at least 400V. Well, that's a disappointment.  For a minute there I thought that it might be a way to derive lots of kW worth of 120v at 60Hz from 230-240v at 50Hz, j

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Oct 2021 at 12:20, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > it appears that battery input needs at least 400V. Well, that's a disappointment. For a minute there I thought that it might be a way to derive lots of kW worth of 120v at 60Hz from 230-240v at 50Hz, just by adding a big bridge rectifier

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/17/21 3:20 PM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: They are still available on Ebay for $400. Darn nice price for a 6KW inverter. Does appear to have a split-phase 240, 120/120 output. Dual Solar panel (200v-500v) inputs. I went digging around the specs, and it appears that battery input needs

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
They are still available on Ebay for $400. Darn nice price for a 6KW inverter. Does appear to have a split-phase 240, 120/120 output. Dual Solar panel (200v-500v) inputs. I went digging around the specs, and it appears that battery input needs at least 400V. I found various discussions online

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/17/21 1:48 PM, Rod Hower via EV wrote: Have you tried connecting your Volt or Bolt to this inverter? On Sunday, October 17, 2021, 11:07:44 AM EDT, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: You mean like a Solarcity H6 (AKA Delta H6)? When Tesla bought out Solarcity they dropped this

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Otmar via EV
What an interesting unit! It looks from the specs that the output is 240VAC, is there a 120V split phase output option? -Otmar, on mobile device. > On Oct 17, 2021, at 9:15 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > Yes! > Fantastic! Is the full 6 kW availalbe in full sun (and no battery) > or

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Rod Hower via EV
Have you tried connecting your Volt or Bolt to this inverter? On Sunday, October 17, 2021, 11:07:44 AM EDT, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: You mean like a Solarcity H6 (AKA Delta H6)? When Tesla bought out Solarcity they dropped this inverter, someone has been clearing them out on

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Yes! Fantastic! Is the full 6 kW availalbe in full sun (and no battery) or just 15 amp "secure power" outlet like on the SUnnyboy? Amd $400 is a GREAT deal compared to the thousand+ for the sunny boy. Is this a reproducible sustainable source of inverters like this. or are these closeouts? is

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
You mean like a Solarcity H6 (AKA Delta H6)? When Tesla bought out Solarcity they dropped this inverter, someone has been clearing them out on Ebay for $400 or so. It was originally designed to wrok with something like a Powerwall for backup power, but will work without it and people have

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 Oct 2021 at 12:07, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Which is why the HV input product is needed. A 1500W inverter from wal > mart is only $100 (one tenth as much) and the only difference is the > input circuitry and winding on the HV transformer. Maybe someday. Keep in mind that those

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-16 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Which is why the HV input product is needed. A 1500W inverter from wal mart is only $100 (one tenth as much) and the only difference is the input circuitry and winding on the HV transformer.. Sure, there is no mass market demand (yet), but it will come. bob On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 8:21 PM Jay

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-15 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
The SMA inverters are NOT isolated, so you will need a 100% isolated DC power source, and in addition, they are not made to work with a battery input. There is isolation detection, which will shutdown the inverter if there is any leakage to PE. Also, The MPPT boost converters are made to work

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2021 at 16:57, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > Have you considered filling the strong market need for a 200-500 VDC input to > 120 VAC output 2 kW inverter that can be used on Solar systems to charge any > EV (via its own EVSE) independent of the grid. There is a CRYING need for > this

Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-15 Thread Jay Summet via EV
It's called the SPS (Secure Power Supply) outlet from a SMA SunnyBoy inverter. https://www.thesolarnerd.com/blog/sma-sunnyboy-inverters/ Cost is around $1500-$2000 on ebay depending on the size you want, plus they work as a grid tie solar inverter when your power is on.

[EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-15 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
Mark, >I used to design switching power supplies... Have you considered filling the strong market need for a 200-500 VDC input to 120 VAC output 2 kW inverter that can be used on Solar systems to charge any EV (via its own EVSE) independent of the grid. There is a CRYING need for this