-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
On 19 Nov 2014 at 13:08, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
probably eventually, a lot of curbside charging for
those who can't park on premises for whatever reason.
The US tends to be more focused on suburbia, so we often forget about
the
Europeans who live
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Chris Meier m...@comcast.net wrote:
Uber? Lyft? Have them pick it up for you, and you retain that hour...
As in my case, and that of another poster, sometimes you really have to be
there. Quickly.
Chris
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A person's viewpoint on this and many other things depends on how risk averse
s/he is, and we all tend to think our level of risk aversion is just about
right and any that is quite different is unreasonable. We are also very
good at self-justifying our position by concocting different
On Nov 18, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Cor van de Water via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
If his colleague would either have asked anyone at that 1-day seminar to
borrow the car for a few hours or he would have called a cab, he would
have been with his wife as quickly as when his EV would have been fully
On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 AM, tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
A person's viewpoint on this and many other things depends on how risk averse
s/he is, and we all tend to think our level of risk aversion is just about
right and any that is quite different is unreasonable.
Range anxiety, I
the range of the vehicle.
Peri
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
On Nov 19
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Here's another point of view.
My conclusion is that range anxiety comes more from the lack of adequate
charging facilities, not from the range of the vehicle.
Peri
If my experience with my cell phone is anything
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle but the
ability to charge.
That's a good point. You can argue all day about the relative merits of at-home
and on-the-go charging, but the fact remains
On 11/19/2014 10:59 AM, Ben Goren via EV wrote:
On Nov 19, 2014, at 8:32 AM, Peri Hartman via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
Range anxiety doesn't so much come from the range of the vehicle
but the ability to charge.
That's a good point. You can argue all day about the relative merits
of
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On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 AM, tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
A person's viewpoint on this and many other things
, November 19, 2014 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:27 AM, tomw via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
A person's viewpoint on this and many other things depends on how risk
averse
s/he is, and we all tend to think our level
Stephen via EV wrote:
You certainly can't rely on public chargers, or at least I haven't had the
nerve to yet... I only charge at work or home.
I feel the same way. It may be occupied, or broken, or it's only for
other brands of EVs, or I don't have the right 'card' etc.
I hate going to gas
On 19 Nov 2014 at 12:13, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
I [prefer charging at home]. [A public charger] may be occupied, or
broken, or it's only for other brands of EVs, or I don't have the
right 'card' etc.
Like (I think) Ben Goren, in the last few years, even before some of the
recent news
Hi Stephen and All,
I've been EVing for 20 yrs now and found early on
the beauty of lightweight EV's, 250-1000lbs that can be charged from 120vac
outlets fairly fast because they have small pack and use little/mile.
My
On Wed, 11/19/14, paul dove via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
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Electric Vehicle Discussion List ev@lists.evdl.org
Ben Goren wrote:
... but the fact remains that American culture is largely built
around on-the-go charging. It's what people know and how they think.
That is not culture, that is a habit. It may be difficult to break, but
habits change. Today you see long lines to buy coffee at Starbucks,
these
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On 19 Nov 2014 at 12:13, Lee Hart via EV wrote:
I [prefer charging at home
On Nov 19, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Rick Beebe via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Personally I think plug-in hybrids like the Volt and my C-Max are probably
the ideal vehicle to introduce people to EVs.
I agree enough that that's the route I'm planning on taking for my own
conversion: add a couple
On Nov 19, 2014, at 12:21 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
So, that's one more advantage for home charging : improved privacy.
Privacy improved even over gasoline...use your credit card at the gas station,
and at least your bank knows where you are. Charge at home and,
On 19 Nov 2014 at 13:08, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
probably eventually, a lot of curbside charging for
those who can't park on premises for whatever reason.
The US tends to be more focused on suburbia, so we often forget about the
Europeans who live in city houses and apartments and park
EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
The US tends to be more focused on suburbia, so we often forget about the
Europeans who live in city houses and apartments and park their cars on the
public streets. They have no garages or even dedicated private parking
spaces, so they have no places to fit
On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:49 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Range anxiety is often cited as one of the major reasons battery electric
vehicles have yet to take off in the mass market. But does it actually exist
in practice?
That friend of mine whom I mentioned a week or three ago
FWIW, I still remember the day a week before a trade show when something
went FUBAR on must-have-for-trade-show parts. I ended up driving over 80
miles before lunch. It does happen, and I don't want to be making excuses
for my EV.
I'm thinking the public will be OK with 150 miles and happy with
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On Nov 18, 2014, at 3:49 AM, brucedp5 via EV ev@lists.evdl.org wrote:
Range anxiety is often cited as one of the major reasons battery
electric vehicles have yet to take
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Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
I am squarely in the corner of just enough and laugh at the unwise
people lugging many thousands of pounds around, burning more money than
they can afford, just to satisfy the confusion between need and desire.
And of course, there could be another Arab Oil
Bob wrote -
My friend drove to an all day conference about 40 miles away. No problem.
Plug in all day. Until his wife ended up back home in the emergency room and
it
took him a few hours on L2 to get enough charge to get home.
He is still living that down. I am a full beliver that 80 mile
: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
FWIW, I still remember the day a week before a trade show when something went
FUBAR on must-have-for-trade-show parts. I ended up driving over 80 miles
before
lunch. It does happen, and I don't want to be making excuses for my EV.
I'm thinking
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Rush Dougherty r...@ironandwood.org
wrote:
I'm not sure I agree... I think that
everything has its limits and it's fine to
admit and respect them.
Hold that thought - more later...
Let me ask you, if your boss, the day of the
Uber? Lyft? Have them pick it up for you, and you retain that hour...
On November 18, 2014 1:04:13 PM CST, Chris Tromley via EV ev@lists.evdl.org
wrote:
FWIW, I still remember the day a week before a trade show when
something
went FUBAR on must-have-for-trade-show parts. I ended up driving over
:28 PM
To: 'Chris Tromley'; 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Hand-wringing EV angst is not a real problem
I'm not sure I agree... I think that everything has its limits and it's
fine to
admit and respect them.
Let me ask you, if your boss, the day of the must-have
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