[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20180822
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-40k-Kona-gets-official-EPA-r-258mi-tp4690984.html
EVLN: $40k Kona gets official EPA-r:258mi
Hyundai Kona Electric gets official EPA range of 258 miles and efficiency of
120 MPGe
Aug. 20th 2018 The Hyundai Ioniq Electric is still the efficiency king, but
its new all-electric vehicle, ... of the Chevy Bolt EV, which is likely the
Kona Electric's closest competitor ...
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-NASA-s-safer-li-ion-packaging-4space-can-t-buy-NiMH-v-tp4690985.html
EVLN: NASA's safer li-ion packaging 4space> can't buy NiMH (v)
NASA is prepared if a battery ever explodes in space
Aug 17, 2018 If a battery were to catch fire inside a pressurized capsule,
such as the space ... cells — the same kind used in electric cars — and
package them for space ...
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https://gm-volt.com/2018/08/20/watch-electric-2019-mercedes-benz-eq-c-test-desert/
Watch the Electric 2019 Mercedes-Benz EQ C Test in the Desert
2018/08/20 Mercedes-Benz is preparing to launch its pure electric EQ C
crossover in 2019 ... Range should sit at around 310 miles ...
https://youtu.be/JAH8Xt5g-zE
https://www.wardsauto.com/technology/updated-water-leak-tests-can-save-vehicles-and-lives
Updated Water Leak Tests Can Save Vehicles – and Lives
Aug 23, 2018 ... “Water is like Kryptonite for today’s EV battery” ... About
80% of suppliers and testing shops are using outdated leak-detection
equipment and processes when testing batteries in new electric vehicles ...
the industry could be ignoring inherent dangers to EV drivers or passengers
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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVent-plugin-rides-Farmers-Market-9a-12n-8-25-Ukiah-CA-tp4690983.html
EVent: plugin rides @Farmers' Market 9a-12n 8/25 Ukiah-CA
Test drive an electric car at the Ukiah Farmers' market, Sat. Aug. 25
8/24/18 Test drive some of the newest models of plug-in electric vehicles
(EVs) at the Ukiah Farmers' Market on Saturday, Aug. 25, from 9 a.m. to noon
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[EVDL] EVLN: NASA's safer li-ion packaging 4space> can't buy NiMH (v)
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/17/17681422/nasa-lithium-ion-batteries-thermal-runaway-human-spaceflight NASA is prepared if a battery ever explodes in space Aug 17, 2018 Loren Grush [images / NASA https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/60859585/iss053e095792_orig.0.jpg Lithium-ion batteries are used to power NASA’s spacesuits on the International Space Station https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/12004241/879_emu_batteries_0.jpg Lithium-ion batteries packaged for spaceflight https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/12004773/eva_batteries.png How batteries are used on NASA’s spacesuits video https://youtu.be/9lInMFHKlIM Space Station Spacewalkers Continue Power Upgrades on Orbital Outpost ] As NASA relies more on lithium-ion batteries, the space agency has a plan to make them safe Part of The Battery Issue [ https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17675660/lithium-ion-battery-science-future-phone ] This maybe sound obvious, but you can’t charge your spacecraft with an extra long power cord — which is why batteries are clutch for space, powering everything from electric tools and spacesuits to satellites and planetary rovers. But sending a battery into the cosmos means more than just loading it onto a rocket: batteries must be built to withstand the extreme temperatures of the space environment, and they also have to be packaged so that they don’t harm any astronauts if they accidentally explode. Many deep-space vessels are equipped with solar panels for power, so most space batteries are used for storing energy on spacecraft to use when the Sun is out of sight. That happens when these vehicles temporarily pass between a planet and the Sun, for instance, blocking light from view. Batteries are crucial for keeping the vehicle powered until sunlight remerges. But batteries also power the life support systems on astronauts’ spacesuits, as well as tools and other portable electric items needed to repair the outside of the International Space Station. "When batteries are used in human spaceflight, NASA is especially concerned about safety" When batteries are used in human spaceflight, NASA is especially concerned about safety. That’s because lithium-ion batteries have become the power pack of choice in space, just like here on Earth. Lithium-ion is perhaps the most powerful battery type available, but it comes with a risk called thermal runaway — when defects or mishandling causes a battery to overheat and explode. If a battery were to catch fire inside a pressurized capsule, such as the space station, the results could be devastating. Fire inside such an oxygen-rich environment would be literally explosive and “very definitely catastrophic,” Christopher Iannello, an electrical power expert in the NASA Technical Fellows Office, tells The Verge. “It’s a potential loss of life situation.” However, NASA has figured out ways to package lithium-ion batteries so that a thermal runaway event would not be a total tragedy on the ISS. Before they’re sent to space, these batteries are carefully outfitted with various materials and technologies, designed to prevent them from spewing heat, smoke, and fire if they were to combust. NASA didn’t always have to worry about exploding batteries. The space agency used to rely on older battery types, like nickel-metal hydride or nickel hydrogen — the main type of battery used for storing energy on the ISS. But as lithium-ion batteries started to take over on the surface of Earth, NASA and other aerospace companies started incorporating them into their vehicles as well. “You can’t really buy (nickel hydrogen) [NiMH] from anyone anymore, because the market has just been taken over by lithium-ion,” Eric Darcy, a battery design expert at NASA’s Johnson Space Center, tells The Verge. Nowadays, if the space agency needs a battery, it will use standard off-the-shelf lithium-ion 18650 cells — the same kind used in electric cars — and package them for space. NASA has even begun swapping out the nickel hydrogen batteries on the ISS for newer lithium-ion ones. The advantages of lithium-ion are especially juicy for NASA because these kinds of batteries blow their predecessors away in terms of power: a commercially made lithium-ion battery cell is about three times as powerful as a nickel-metal hydride cell. Lithium-ion batteries also pack a lot of power into a relatively small and lightweight cell. That’s crucial for spaceflight, when every single pound is critical. The heavier a spacecraft, the more energy — and money — is needed to launch it into space. Having smaller batteries on space-bound vehicles saves weight and room, allowing for other, more important instruments to be added. Lithium-ion batteries also last longer than other spaceflight batteries. The Russian Soyuz capsule, used to transport astronauts to and from the ISS, uses silver-zinc batteries that last only a few months. That’s partially why the Soyuz has to return to Earth
[EVDL] EVLN: $40k Kona gets official EPA-r:258mi
https://electrek.co/2018/08/20/hyundai-kona-electric-official-epa-range-efficiency/
Hyundai Kona Electric gets official EPA range of 258 miles and efficiency of
120 MPGe
Aug. 20th 2018 Fred Lambert
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Hyundai has done it again as it delivers an undoubtedly hyper-efficient
all-electric vehicle.
The Kona Electric gets an official EPA range of 258 miles and efficiency of
120 MPGe.
The Hyundai Ioniq Electric is still the efficiency king, but its new
all-electric vehicle, the Kona Electric, still delivers an impressive
efficiency even though it is a “compact SUV” format with a much bigger
battery pack.
When the Korean automaker unveiled the Kona Electric earlier this year, it
claimed a range of “up to 292 miles” for the version with the bigger battery
pack. But that was based on the European standard and we estimated the EPA
and real-world range to be closer to 250 miles.
Now the official numbers are in and the vehicle has an impressive 258 miles
of range on a single charge, according to the EPA.
It also achieved an impressive efficiency of 120 MPGe (132 for city driving
and 108 for highway driving), which is just enough to beat the efficiency of
the Chevy Bolt EV, which is likely the Kona Electric’s closest competitor
...
That’s for the longer range version of the vehicle, which appears to still
be the only one in production.
Under this configuration, the Kona Electric will be equipped with a 64 kWh
battery pack and will also have a more powerful 150 kW motor for a quicker
acceleration: 7,6-sec 0 to 100 km/h vs 9.3-sec for the base battery pack and
motor.
The ‘Short-range’ battery pack option will have a 39.2 kWh battery pack,
which Hyundai said would enable a range of 300 km (186 miles) on a single
charge, but that’s likely to be closer to 160 miles.
That version of the vehicle will also be equipped with a 99 kW permanent
magnet synchronous electric motor putting down 395 Nm of torque and a top
speed of 167 km/h (103 mph).
Prices are not yet available in the US, but the vehicle is expected to start
in the low $30,000s for the base version with the Long Range version at
around $40,000, based on prices that have been released in other markets.
As we reported last month, Hyundai started production of the Kona Electric
CUV in June and shipped out the first ~1,000 units.
The vehicle has now made its way to Norway and it is also being delivered in
South Korea.
It is expected to arrive in North America in the coming months.
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Watch the Electric 2019 Mercedes-Benz EQ C Test in the Desert
2018/08/20 Mercedes-Benz is preparing to launch its pure electric EQ C
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[EVDL] EVent: plugin rides @Farmers' Market 9a-12n 8/25 Ukiah-CA
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Test drive an electric car at the Ukiah Farmers’ market, Sat. Aug. 25
8/24/18
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MENDOCINO Co., 8/24/18 -- If you've ever wondered what it's like to drive an
electric car, or considered purchasing one, tomorrow morning at the Ukiah
Farmers' Market is your chance. There will be a free event where you can
test drive a BMW i3, a Honda Clarity, a Chevy Volt or a Toyota Prius Prime.
Also you can buy delicious vegetables and meats, and partake in, or
contribute to the Market Match program.
The market manager of the farmers' market pointed us to this event and it's
being organized by the Center for Sustainable Energy, as part of the Clean
Vehicle Rebate Project.
Here are the details:
Benefits of Driving Electric Vehicles on Display at Ukiah Farmers’
Market, Aug. 25
View and test drive new electric cars and learn about rebates
Test drive some of the newest models of plug-in electric vehicles (EVs)
at the Ukiah Farmers’ Market on Saturday, Aug. 25, from 9 a.m. to noon at
the Alex Thomas Plaza at School and Clay streets. This free event is slated
to feature the BMW i3, Honda Clarity, Chevrolet Volt and Toyota Prius Prime.
Most everyone has seen an EV on the road or in ads, but this is a chance
to try one out for free without going to a dealership. Licensed drivers can
drive new EVs on a first-come, first-served basis and feel the difference
between driving with electricity versus driving a gas-powered car.
Stop by the Clean Vehicle Rebate Project’s Drive Clean and Save booth
for the test drive and learn about rebates of up to $7,000 for the purchase
or lease of new, eligible zero-emission or plug-in hybrid light-duty
vehicles.
Since 2010, the rebate project has awarded over $550,000,000 for more
than 247,000 electric vehicle rebates throughout California. The project is
administered by the Center for Sustainable Energy. For information, visit
CleanVehicleRebate.org.
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Ukiah, California - The Yokaya grant, which covered the majority of the
Ukiah valley, was named for the Pomo word meaning "deep valley." ... This
word was also the basis for the city name, as Ukiah was an anglicized form
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Re: [EVDL] Roland Wiench
I too have increase my knowledge via the list serve and a few direct email conversation with Roland I believe Roland fits the Albert Pike quote: "What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us; what we have done for others and the world remains and is immortal." Buddy Mills buddymi...@cox.net Look mom, no gas. www.evalbum.com/2887 Disclaimer: No animals were harmed or killed in the process of writing this email. Any stories to the contrary are, for the most part, either fictional or greatly exaggerated. -Original Message- From: EV [mailto:ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org] On Behalf Of Suhas Malghan via EV Sent: Friday, August 24, 2018 6:45 PM To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Suhas Malghan Subject: [EVDL] Roland Wiench Add me to the long list of people who will miss Roland Wiench’s posts. I enjoyed hearing about his robust approach to engineering informed by data collection built around his daily drive. The way he described it, his EV had a switch for everything; all failure modes were addressed, regardless of how remote their occurrence. It appears he lived a long, satisfying life and I’m glad he posted to this list. Sent from my iPhone ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Roland Wiench
Add me to the long list of people who will miss Roland Wiench’s posts. I enjoyed hearing about his robust approach to engineering informed by data collection built around his daily drive. The way he described it, his EV had a switch for everything; all failure modes were addressed, regardless of how remote their occurrence. It appears he lived a long, satisfying life and I’m glad he posted to this list. Sent from my iPhone ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Leno garage r:600mi Tesla
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Video starts with Leno driving a r:200mi older Tesla Roadster to chat about
past, current & future Tesla EVs. The most reaction came from Leno
accelerating.
IMO, conclusion: a short titillating piece that does not say much, and there
is
no 600mi EV, one can buy today.
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[EVDL] Anyone interested in an EV project in Midland, TX?
Hi all, Here's the reason I've rejoined the EV list after my long absence. This is a sad message, but I need to lighten my load of one EV conversion that's been "nearly done" for about 10 years. We're moving to the Seattle area and it's uncertain how much room I'll have to work on it. Plus I promised my wife that our move to Midland was the last one for the Ghia - if it wasn't roadable by the time we left, I would sell it. That time has come. It's a 1971 Karmann Ghia with custom seats and dashboard. It has an 8in Advanced DC motor (the one from the Corbin Sparrow, so it has a longer driveshaft). It's already installed via an Electro Automotive adapter with a taperlock hub. I've driven it up the driveway and into the garage with one battery and some jumper cables. The car was designed with Exide Orbital batteries in mind, which appear to be hard to find in the US now. Not yet installed, but included: - replacement wiring harness from Ron Francis wiring (the hot rod guys) - Zilla 1K - Manzanita Micro PFC20 charger - 18 or so Mk 2 battery regulators, with my custom battery mounting hardware - a PakTrakr (battery instrumentation system) - Zilla cooling kit from Ryan Bohm at EV Source - 1/0 battery cables and battery lugs - various tools, such as an awesome crimper and a big inverter for battery load testing I haven't gone through and made a detailed list or come up with a price for it yet. I thought maybe someone would be interested and make me an offer and save me the work :) Feel free to ask questions or make suggestions. Thanks, Doug W. -- Doug Weathers http://www.gdunge.com "There is no easy way from the Earth to the stars." - Seneca "We choose to go to the Moon and do the other things - not because they are easy, but because they are hard." - John F. Kennedy ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Jay Leno suprised by 600 mile range electric car.
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Sono solar-Sion reservations.nl passed 5k mark r:250km
On 23 Aug 2018 at 23:15, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > The compact car Sion is an electric vehicle with solar modules incorporated > into the bodywork that use the sun to generate a range of up to 30 > kilometers a day ... "Up to." Right. What is your internet connection supposed to give you speeds "up to"? Interesting idea, not ugly, and not horrendously expensive, but imagine what it would cost to fix a creased door or fender. I'm skeptical that the value of the electricity generated would offset the extra insurance cost, let alone extra vehicle cost. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: 7.2k orders.eu4 $13.6k micro-mobility.com(Isetta) r:133mi (v)
Conventional motorcycles have appalling aerodynamics. In the UK,
learners were limited to machine of no more than 125cc and 12bhp. You
could expect a top speed of 60mph.
My Scirocco EV would also do about 60mph on that power (as read from
the gauges).
The Microlino is the right kind of shape, more rounded at the front,
more pointed at the back and is devoid of the kind of random
projections and seams that my 80's Scirocco was burdened with. It
wouldn't surprise me if the aerodynamics were pretty good.
On 24 August 2018 at 02:37, Alan Arrison via EV wrote:
> Yeah right 8000/74=108wh per mile.
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> maybe at 10mph. Motorcycles don't even do that good.
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> Al
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>> The Microlino will offer two different lithium-ion battery sizes: an 8-kwh
>> unit is good for 74 miles, and a 14.4-kwh version will cover 133 miles.
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>> The company says charging will take four hours.
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>> Either way, the Microlino is strictly a city car, with a top speed of 55
>> mph
>> from its 20-hp electric motor.
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Ioniq-N Is "Not Fully Crazy"> sportier is not their market
On 23 Aug 2018 at 23:14, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > Currently, the Ioniq Electric makes a paltry 118 horsepower and 218 lb-ft of > torque. In our testing, those figures were enough to propel the Ioniq to 60 > mph in 8.6 seconds. To put this in perspective, a 1970 Datsun 240Z did 0-60 in 8.7 seconds. A Lotus Europa of the same year returned a 0-60 time of 11.2 seconds. These weren't considered slow cars in 1970. And lest you think that these cars were hobbled by 1970-vintage US emission controls, a 1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS-350, fitted with no more EC hardware than a PCV valve, did 0-60 in 8.0 seconds. For most of the 1970s, typical small car 0-60 acceleration ranged from 13 to 20 seconds. In 1976, VW boasted in their ads that the US-spec Rabbit could do 0-60 in 11 seconds. That was pretty darn quick for an economy car. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
