Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-24 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
It’s amazing what civil unrest accomplished in China. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 24, 2021, at 3:14 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV > wrote: > > On 24 May 2021 at 11:26, Larry Gales via EV wrote: > >> The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier,

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-24 Thread Larry Gales via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Curtis WinVCL support

2021-05-24 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 103, Issue 24

2021-05-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Forklifts and floor scrubbers need not run on natural gas or propane. There are both battery electric and fuel cell electric hybrid equipment available in that category with zero emissions. Quite so! Indeed, I suspect that something close to half of the golf

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 103, Issue 24

2021-05-24 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Forklifts and floor scrubbers need not run on natural gas or propane. There are both battery electric and fuel cell electric hybrid equipment available in that category with zero emissions. - Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 24, 2021, at 2:23 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: >

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 May 2021 at 11:26, Larry Gales via EV wrote: > The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier, they > become . In addition, they are proportionally less efficient. So small gas > vehicles are generally a bad idea: they are responsible for much of the > horrific pollution

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-24 Thread Peter C. Thompson via EV
FWIW, I was in Shanghai about 2 years ago - amazing transformation from ugly and smelly.  All of the motorcycles and 3-wheel delivery vehicles are now electric.  The noise level was dramatically reduced in addition to the smog reduction. So NEVs do indeed have their place, as long as one

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 103, Issue 24

2021-05-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: From: Larry Gales The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier, they become . In addition, they are proportionally less efficient. Indeed, that has been the general pattern. Small vehicles are cheap vehicles, and the emission standards have

Re: [EVDL] EV Digest, Vol 103, Issue 24

2021-05-24 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
From: Larry Gales To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" The smaller you make a gas vehicle, the uglier, noisier, dirtier, they become . In addition, they are proportionally less

Re: [EVDL] NEV is a stoopid idea. Moped is better

2021-05-24 Thread Larry Gales via EV
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[EVDL] Curtis WinVCL support

2021-05-24 Thread Bill Messing via EV
Hi, we're developing an autonomous cargo vehicle using a Curtis 1236SE controller for the prototype. We have the OEM version of the 1314 programmer and we have WinVCL. And yet...where information is missing from the documentation, the support is nonexistent. Curtis refers us to their reseller and

[EVDL] Stowing a Spare Tire in a Tesla Y

2021-05-24 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Hi folks Last night I figured out how to place the spare from moderntire.com. In the rear trunk where I put the jack, lug wrench, plug kit - I noticed a gap between the top surface and the next down with a ridge made out of hard carpet and foam. Initially I tried a SawZall to cut the ridge so

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread Jan Steinman via EV
capacity of the battery and then subtracting something (80% is probably reasonable) for the (in)efficiency of the inverter. Jan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread jim--- via EV
Original Message- From: "Peri Hartman via EV" > Hmm. Well, yes, there are two batteries in it but I can't tell the Ah. > I'll find out soon, when the power goes off :) > You seem reasonably confident that the charger won't overload, it will > just take longer. My concern is that it

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Peri Hartman via EV wrote: First, thanks for everyone's replies. Appreciated. The unit I bought is rated for 900w and 1500VA. The specs don't list the Wh but, again, my guess is around 100Wh. The idea of hacking the unit and putting in a larger battery is tempting. Theoretically, if it is

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Hmm. Well, yes, there are two batteries in it but I can't tell the Ah. I'll find out soon, when the power goes off :) You seem reasonably confident that the charger won't overload, it will just take longer. My concern is that it might be designed to safely charge at some current level just

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread jim--- via EV
From: "Peri Hartman via EV" > The unit I bought is rated for 900w and 1500VA. The specs don't list the > Wh but, again, my guess is around 100Wh. That seems a pretty small battery for a 1500VA UPS Very commonly those use two 7A 12V sealed Gel Cells in series. > The idea of hacking the unit

Re: [EVDL] small UPS

2021-05-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
First, thanks for everyone's replies. Appreciated. The unit I bought is rated for 900w and 1500VA. The specs don't list the Wh but, again, my guess is around 100Wh. The idea of hacking the unit and putting in a larger battery is tempting. Theoretically, if it is rated for a 900w loiad, it