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> In a way, he acts like a dictator
Oh, interesting. At the risk of throwing this discussion off-topic
(hell, it's already bouncing off the guardrails as-is):
Whenever I hear the term "dictator" tossed around casually, I
encourage people to examine the origins of the term, and the several
On 12/19/2022 2:16 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
Tesla's primary "innovation" was making an EV that appealed to rich
folks,
especially celebrity greens awash in excess cash. Those gadgets and
gimmicks were part of the appeal.
Actually, I think his main innovation was how to BUILD cars
This entire thread is at once spot.on, and amusing.
I’m 57, so I remember GM crapping on the EV movement with their proprietary
Magnecharge system; lease-only EV-1, and lobbying against clean air mandates.
It disgusted me and I vowed never to buy GM.
Fast forward 30 years. I have a 20 GM
On 19 Dec 2022 at 20:44, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> If Elon hadn't started the EV mass production revolution, some one else
> surely would have. But it might have been several years later and might
> have been to weak the first time around to not be squashed by the ICE
> industry.
"Someone
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On 19 Dec 2022 at 12:28, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> They took ACPs powertrain, Lotus' chassis, and some pretty innovative
> laptop 18650 battery packaging
Gage and Eberhard / Tesla didn't invent the idea of using massive numbers of
laptop cells. I'm not so sure anyone did, as the concept of
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On 19 Dec 2022 at 11:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> Yeah, the original Tesla Roadster used the ACP design with very little
> change.
I read somewhere (haven't taken the time to find it again) that rather than
license Alan Cocconi's design, Gage and Eberhard reverse-engineered it for
the Tesla
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 19:55, paul dove via EV wrote:
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> Allen was the engineer that designed the EV1 drive train for GM.
Alan Cocconi designed the twin inverters for the Aerovironment Impact.
The EV1 inverter was designed by Hughes Aerospace.
Ref; "The Car That Could"
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Why do we start with an ICE roller and convert it to EV? Why don't we
start by machining some wheels on the lathe, some square tubing for
frame rails, start hand laying fiberglass for a body..
It's almost always easier (faster/cheaper) to start with even a flawed
initial implementation than
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