Blaming EVs 4clogging hov/carpool lanes> toll$ will ri$e
http://www.mercurynews.com/mr-roadshow/ci_26822022/roadshow-california-test-fees-number-miles-driven
Roadshow: California to test mileage-based fees
By Gary Richards 11/02/2014
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On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:57 AM, tomw via EV wrote:
> A gps based system could report
> only total miles traveled to protect those concerned with others knowing
> where they drive.
Could it? Sure, in theory. Would it? In this day and age? Who're you trying to
kid?
*You* may be fine with the idea, b
/"There's another aspect to this: how is the government to know how many
in-state miles you've driven? The only feasible way is with GPS trackers in
every car, something horrifically unconscionable. "/
I don't see what is so horrific about this. A gps based system could report
only total miles tra
And don't
forget plug-in Hybrids. They can go on out of state or in state, use
gasoline (and pay gas tax), use electricity (and potentially be taxed
via odometer also, resulting
in doubly taxed, no taxed or any combination therein.
>Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay fo
On Nov 7, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Rush Dougherty wrote:
>> Put simply, the government has no business knowing how
>> much I drive where and when.
>
> So I guess you take the battery out of your cellphone when you're driving...
Getting a bit far afield, are we? The topic of discussion is the governmen
Ben wrote -
> Put simply, the government has no business knowing how
> much I drive where and when.
So I guess you take the battery out of your cellphone when you're driving...
Rush
Tucson AZ
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Lawrence Winiarski via EV wrote:
Coming soon. More stuff we need to discourage, because in some way it reduces
tax revenues
Thanks for my laugh of the day, Lawrence! :-)
It reminds me of "A Christmas Car", a parody of Dickens' "A Christmas
Carol" I wrote years ago. http://www.evdl.org/pages/
There's another aspect to this: how is the government to know how many in-state
miles you've driven? The only feasible way is with GPS trackers in every car,
something horrifically unconscionable.
Yes, you could go off odometer readings, but those will fail spectacularly on
two counts: first, m
Coming soon. More stuff we need to discourage, because in some way it reduces
tax revenues
* high recycle households.
* healthy people.
* gardeners
* wells and septic tanks
* solar panels
* bicyclers
On 7 Nov 2014 at 13:15, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Currently EV's get a free ride on the roads but gas cars get a free
> ride on the environmental damage they cause.
This is the point I was trying to make when I said "by taking better care of
the environment, EV drivers are SAVING [the stat
r the
environment.
Done, Fair, move on.
Bob, WB4APR
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Paul Dove via EV wrote:
Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay for roads.
Previously it was done by taxing fuel.
I don't think any reasonable person objects to paying taxes to support
our highway infrastructure. But the *way* it's being done with ICEs vs.
EVs violates people's sen
On 11/07/2014 10:50 AM, Paul Dove via EV wrote:
Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay for roads.
Previously it was done by taxing fuel. You can tax electricity to pay
for roads because how would you know which part went into the
vehicle. So they have to devise another way
The pr
And it can be argued that the purchase subsidy is already recompense for
the relief EVs bring to pollution controls and the like. Whether such
things should be paid for with user fees or more progressive forms of
taxation is a discussion for a whole different forum ;-)
- Cal Frye
> Paul Dove via E
Not really! The government must collect taxes to pay for roads. Previously it
was done by taxing fuel. You can tax electricity to pay for roads because how
would you know which part went into the vehicle. So they have to devise another
way
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> On Nov 7, 2014, at 9:36 AM, EVDL
On 7 Nov 2014 at 2:07, brucedp5 via EV wrote:
> Why the push to another way to pay? Gas use has declined steadily since 2005
> as fuel-efficient and alternative energy cars have flourished.
Right, so let's discourage that. Great.
I see this sort of notion and have to conclude that the US has th
Blaming EVs 4clogging hov/carpool lanes> toll$ will ri$e
http://www.mercurynews.com/mr-roadshow/ci_26822022/roadshow-california-test-fees-number-miles-driven
Roadshow: California to test mileage-based fees
By Gary Richards 11/02/2014
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http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568
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