Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-31 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
EVDL Administrator via EV To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/30/16, 11:20 PM On 30 May 2016 at 14:36, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Note: For those of us not viewing this with webmail, the

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-31 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
teract with quite a bit. - Mark Sent from AltaMail From: Michael Ross To: Mark Abramowitz ,Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/30/16, 7:43 PM I would like to see this chart and to know

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 May 2016 at 14:36, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > Note: For those of us not viewing this with webmail, the links to things like > "Here's a similar chart..." don't appear. Except for those Mark sent copies to individually (off list), the charts wouldn't have been viewable at all. This is becaus

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Consultant to Dr. Joseph K. Lyou, Governor's Appointee to the South Coast Air Quality Management District Governing Board Sent from AltaMail From: Lee Hart To: ma...@enviropolicy.com, Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smoot

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
[EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/30/16, 12:36 PM Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Basically, the chart says that it you compare the various energy storage > technologies, some are well suited for discharging over short time periods

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Michael Ross via EV
I would like to see this chart and to know its provenance. If it is dated, as so much info floating about the internet is, it could be old news and no longer accurate. On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 6:43 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > Basically, the chart says that it you compare the various ene

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: Basically, the chart says that it you compare the various energy storage technologies, some are well suited for discharging over short time periods and some for long, and some are well-suited for storing large amounts of energy, and some smaller. Here's a simila

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
ot; To: ma...@enviropolicy.com, "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" CC: "David Nelson" , brucedp5 , "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/29/16, 2:10 PM Why do you s

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2016-05-30 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ssage -- From: "Mark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "David Nelson" ; "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 3:03:20 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: [EVDL] Old packs as po

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2016-05-30 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Quality Management District Governing Board Sent from AltaMail From: Peri Hartman via EV To: "David Nelson" , brucedp5 , "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/29/16, 12:52 PM

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-30 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
owitz" To: "Peri Hartman" Cc: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "David Nelson" ; "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 2:16:05 PM Subject: Re: Re[2]: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smoo

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
e Discussion List" ; "David Nelson" ; "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 3:03:20 PM Subject: Re: Re[4]: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Sorry, misspoke, but this should help (let me know

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2016-05-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
; "David Nelson" ; "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 3:43:26 PM Subject: Re: Re[6]: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Basically, the chart says that it you compare the various energy

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2016-05-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
"Peri Hartman" To: ma...@enviropolicy.com CC: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" , "David Nelson" , brucedp5 , "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re[6]: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/29/16, 3

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2016-05-29 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
n List" Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more Date: 5/29/16, 12:52 PM I definitely would like to see incentives for installing "depleted" batteries as solar and wind backup. We're at a point in time where we can pro

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2016-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
age -- From: "Mark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: "David Nelson" ; "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 2:06:52 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-29 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ery storage and boosting EV production and sales. The sooner, the better, in my opinion. Peri -- Original Message -- From: "David Nelson via EV" To: "brucedp5" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 29-May-16 12:43:01 PM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old pack

Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-29 Thread David Nelson via EV
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:46 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > Why aren't they installing these power-walls at well used L3 EVSE stations? > Is there a major utility complaint that highly used L3 EVSE puts a high > demand on the grid? > That the EV's power demand during peak HVAC power periods are

[EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid, +more

2016-05-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV
Reading all these news items (some good, some anti-EV, some overunity-odd/silly, and some just plain unworthy of one's time, etc.), lead me to think ... ... with both Tesla and Nissan (and a few other minor players) re-purposing their under 80% capacity packs (that came from driver replacements