On 10 Feb 2020 at 15:48, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Ultimately we may need legal clarification of what it means to own, or
> at least indefinitely own the right to use. Similar to the
> right-to-repair issues fomenting right now.
You'll see more of this in coming years. It's a growing trend
ou lose all the service aspects plus the
> >ability to create new documents, but you can still use the software to
> >open and read documents.
> >
> >Ultimately we may need legal clarification of what it means to own, or
> >at least indefinitely own the right to use. Similar
ow.
>
>Peri
>
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>From: "paul dove via EV"
>To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
>Cc: "paul dove" ; "EVDL Administrator"
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>Sent: 10-Feb-20 3:59:10 AM
>Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopil
nt: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:12 PM
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> Cc: paul dove ; EVDL Administrator
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model
> S After 'Audit'
>
> Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you aren’t pay
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From: "paul dove"
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" ; "Peri
Hartman"
Sent: 10-Feb-20 10:23:14 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used
Model S After 'Audit'
I would agree with you if it was purchased... However, FSD was neve
, 2020 10:34 AM
To: Damon Henry
Cc: paul dove via EV ; EVDL Administrator
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S
After 'Audit'
That’s not accurate. The feature was not there at the time of purchase.
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On Feb 10, 2020, at 12:12 PM, Damon
Sent: 10-Feb-20 3:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used
Model S After 'Audit'
>It’s the exact same thing. His car still drives. Just certain SW features
>don’t work. Cable can shutoff showtime, HBO or whatever else you aren’t paying
>for.
ar?
Damon
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Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 4:12 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Cc: paul dove ; EVDL Administrator
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used Model S
After 'Audit'
Cable TV
From: "paul dove via EV"
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
Cc: "paul dove" ; "EVDL Administrator"
Sent: 10-Feb-20 3:59:10 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used
Model S After 'Audit'
It’s the exact same thing
It’s the exact same thing. His car still drives. Just certain SW features don’t
work. Cable can shutoff showtime, HBO or whatever else you aren’t paying for...
I am sure there are comparable examples in the auto world I am just not up on
features offered with other vehicles
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On 9 Feb 2020 at 18:12, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you arenTMt paying for the
> service too.
I assume you mean HEARTbeat. Cable TV isn't a car. It's not even an
antenna. You don't own it. It's strictly a service, to be granted or not
at the whim
Cable TV will shut you off in a heat beat if you aren’t paying for the service
too. This doesn’t sound different they just did it after delivery to the
dealer. It gave no impression the car had this when he purchased it from the
used car dealer.
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> On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:54
m via EV"
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List"
Cc: "Barry Oppenheim"
Sent: 09-Feb-20 4:09:57 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from Used
Model S After 'Audit'
The buyer of the car did not buy the vehicle from Tesla. He bought if from
a
The buyer of the car did not buy the vehicle from Tesla. He bought if from
a third party.
My understanding is that the car was either a trade in or buy back by
Tesla. Tesla then sold the car at auction to a third party dealer. The
dealer listed the car based on the original sticker features.
They might as well sneak into his garage in the middle of the night and
steal parts from the car. The only difference between this and what GM did
to their EV-1 lessees is the scale of the confiscation. It's disgusting.
And y'all wonder why I'll never buy a Tesla. I admire the brilliant
>https://www.google.com/search?q=tesla+audit
>
>Tesla Remotely Removed Autopilot Features from
>Used Model S After 'Audit'
>ExtremeTech·2 days ago
This reads like a lawsuit in the making.
Listing the car as having this feature, selling it, then removing the feature.
(the article says that Tesla
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