Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
I agree. I will take the lead on organizing for the upcoming state-side Perl and Non Perl events. I can set up a page within the wiki for each conference and put out requests for willing community members that are attending to help out. We should use FOSDEM as an example going forward. -Dan - Original Message From: Gabor Szabo To: DirkDn Cc: Rich Sands ; TPF Marketing ; events@lists.perlfoundation.org; Erik Colson Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 4:40:42 PM Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2010 report On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, DirkDn wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > I had a quick look at it. > > A quick summary I looked up from the google perl events calendar. > - Perl QA Hackathon Vienna, Austria April 10-12 > - Nordic Perl Workshop (Iceland) May 1-2 > - Portuguese Perl Workshop June 4-5 > - Perl Mova + YAPC::Russia June 12-13 > - Belgian Perl Workshop Brussels June 26 > - YAPC::EU Pisa, Italy August 4-6 While it would be nice to have our stand on the Perl events as well where we could explain to people how they could promote perl our focus has to be on the non-perl events. On http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events there is a mix of them - I added the Perl events as well - but so far I have not seen anyone starting to organize Perl presence on other events. If we want to make an impact we have to be present on at least on event every month! We should also learn from the Debian and PostgreSQL People on how well organized they are. e.g. See this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEventsChemnitzerLinuxTage2010 We need to get the community to wake up and start being present on non-perl events! Gabor
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:49 PM, DirkDn wrote: > Hi Gabor, > > I had a quick look at it. > > A quick summary I looked up from the google perl events calendar. > - Perl QA Hackathon Vienna, Austria April 10-12 > - Nordic Perl Workshop (Iceland) May 1-2 > - Portuguese Perl Workshop June 4-5 > - Perl Mova + YAPC::Russia June 12-13 > - Belgian Perl Workshop Brussels June 26 > - YAPC::EU Pisa, Italy August 4-6 While it would be nice to have our stand on the Perl events as well where we could explain to people how they could promote perl our focus has to be on the non-perl events. On http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events there is a mix of them - I added the Perl events as well - but so far I have not seen anyone starting to organize Perl presence on other events. If we want to make an impact we have to be present on at least on event every month! We should also learn from the Debian and PostgreSQL People on how well organized they are. e.g. See this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEventsChemnitzerLinuxTage2010 We need to get the community to wake up and start being present on non-perl events! Gabor
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
Hi!
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 05:49:55PM +0100, DirkDn wrote:
> The next upcoming event would be in Austria. Considering the proximity
> of CEBIT and Vienna I guess that it could get transferred quite easily
> to the next event.
The QA Hackathon in Vienna will be rather small and not-very-public
event (it's open to the public, but as the focus is internal
QA/toolchain hacking, I doubt that any non-Perl people will show up
there).
So I doubt that we need any promotional material.
(But it might also be that I have no idea what you're talking about, so
please correct me in case I'm off the track...)
> The following hop from Vienna to the Nordic Perl Workshop should be
> possible too with our travelling perl community.
If whatever stuff ends up in Vienna we might get it to NPW via Berlin
(even though I cannot take it, as I'm cycling from Vienna to Berlin..)
> Also if we could make this happen, it could make a great cover story
> of how flexible, alive and cooperative the perl community actually is
> without spending a fortune on UPS. Just get some pictures everywhere
> taken of where the banners and so have travelled and we've got a great
> photo-story to tell.
That of course sounds like a cool idea.
--
#!/usr/bin/perl http://domm.plix.at
for(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
Hi Gabor, I had a quick look at it. The next upcoming event would be in Austria. Considering the proximity of CEBIT and Vienna I guess that it could get transferred quite easily to the next event. The following hop from Vienna to the Nordic Perl Workshop should be possible too with our travelling perl community. The jumps afterwards are a bit further but nothing that could be solved through UPS I guess. Also if we could make this happen, it could make a great cover story of how flexible, alive and cooperative the perl community actually is without spending a fortune on UPS. Just get some pictures everywhere taken of where the banners and so have travelled and we've got a great photo-story to tell. A quick summary I looked up from the google perl events calendar. - Perl QA Hackathon Vienna, Austria April 10-12 - Nordic Perl Workshop (Iceland) May 1-2 - Portuguese Perl Workshop June 4-5 - Perl Mova + YAPC::Russia June 12-13 - Belgian Perl Workshop Brussels June 26 - YAPC::EU Pisa, Italy August 4-6 Cheers. Dirk. 2010/2/14 Gabor Szabo : > I am still trying to catch my breath and the backlog of stuff to be done but > finally I made it to this post. > > Dirk, thanks for your time related to FOSDEM and detailed report! > See my comments: > > On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:18 AM, DirkDn wrote: >> Hi Rich, >> >> I'll add a section about perl promo >> stands to the perl event documentation we put together at >> "http://github.com/lordarthas/perl-events/tree/master";. This is a kind >> of massive braindump stating all things required for a perl event. The >> concerned mailing list is "perl-eve...@lists.perl.it". > > Oh I did not know about that one. I was trying to update/maintain the > wiki page http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events > with similar information but IMHO we should unite them somehow. > > >> --> I was thinking of introducing a european "pool" of event material >> to be passsed along among workshops and yapc's. > > >> Also once the current banners have served at CEBIT, could they be >> passed on the nearby perl mongers so it could find its way to the next >> perl workshop? > > I took the banners with me so we will be able to use them on CeBit but > I'd be more than happy to leave them in Germany and let people pass them > around. We just need to decide who will take them. > > We just need to make sure they will be used a lot on the various events. > > BTW I think we should have a "Perl events stand" on YAPC::EU where we can > explain what is this events group about. (or the Perl "marketing" in general). > > > BTW I wrote a short blog post about it with some of the pictures of Erik > included: > > http://szabgab.com/blog/2010/02/1266052953.html > > Gabor >
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
I am still trying to catch my breath and the backlog of stuff to be done but finally I made it to this post. Dirk, thanks for your time related to FOSDEM and detailed report! See my comments: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 1:18 AM, DirkDn wrote: > Hi Rich, > > I'll add a section about perl promo > stands to the perl event documentation we put together at > "http://github.com/lordarthas/perl-events/tree/master";. This is a kind > of massive braindump stating all things required for a perl event. The > concerned mailing list is "perl-eve...@lists.perl.it". Oh I did not know about that one. I was trying to update/maintain the wiki page http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl5/index.cgi?events with similar information but IMHO we should unite them somehow. > --> I was thinking of introducing a european "pool" of event material > to be passsed along among workshops and yapc's. > Also once the current banners have served at CEBIT, could they be > passed on the nearby perl mongers so it could find its way to the next > perl workshop? I took the banners with me so we will be able to use them on CeBit but I'd be more than happy to leave them in Germany and let people pass them around. We just need to decide who will take them. We just need to make sure they will be used a lot on the various events. BTW I think we should have a "Perl events stand" on YAPC::EU where we can explain what is this events group about. (or the Perl "marketing" in general). BTW I wrote a short blog post about it with some of the pictures of Erik included: http://szabgab.com/blog/2010/02/1266052953.html Gabor
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
Rich Sands wrote: I wonder what it would take to organize a dev-room next year. I know it is a lot of work getting al the speakers lined up and publicizing it but it can really pay off with a big surge of interest in the platform. Dave Cross can probably tell you more about his experience some years ago. He got a devroom for Perl back in 2005 (I think). I tried to get one for two years (2007-2008), but the candidature was rejected. I suspect the Fosdem organizers don't like giving devrooms to programming languages as php, Python or Perl but prefer projects like Ruby on Rails, Drupal etc. I've seen that some devrooms were shared by different projects (one saturday, the other sunday). Maybe we should propose a devroom for 1 day dedicated to Catalyst and DBIx::Class and/or other projects ? Did anyone take any pictures? Anyone blog or planning to blog? we've put some on twitpic during the event ! tags: #fosdem and #perl -- Erik Colson http://www.ecocode.net
Re: FOSDEM 2010 report
Hi Gabor and FOSDEM team, Thanks for this update and glad the event went well with plenty of developers stopping by. Just wondering about the marketing materials - how did the postcards look? Did you pass many out? How did the Rakudo Star cards work out? Did the banners look good? Did the banner stand work well or was it hard to set up and use? Did the Tuits look good and did you pass many out? Any good connections made to other projects - ideas for collaboration? Did you and the others get a sense for people's impression of Perl as a platform and any ideas on new ways to engage? What questions were the most common? What issues do you see and any ideas how to address them? Any great positive comments to relate? What did you say that seemed to make the best impression/connection with developers? I wonder what it would take to organize a dev-room next year. I know it is a lot of work getting al the speakers lined up and publicizing it but it can really pay off with a big surge of interest in the platform. Did anyone take any pictures? Anyone blog or planning to blog? Thanks again! -- rms On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Gabor Szabo wrote: > Hi, > > first of all let me thank again to all the people who helped preparing > for the event and for those who helped with the stand! > > A short report: > > We were told that there were 5,000 geeks around. I don't know but it certainly > feeled crowded even in the building where the Perl stand was. > In the main building most of the stands belonged to the various linux and BSD > distributions while there was a separate building where the various > projects had > their stands. Some of the projects (at least I think PostgreSQL) had > both a stand > there and a dev-room. > > While our stand was not in the main flow of the people we still had > lot of people passing > by and stopping at the stand. > > A few comments and idea so far: > > - Juerd Waalboer brought a beamer/projector and I think Dave Cross > hacked together a few slides we were projecting to the wall opposite > to the stand. (one of them explaining the tuits thing) > This was great. We should try to make this happen next time on purpose > and not only by chance. A slight improvement would be to project from some > other place and not from the middle of the table as this disturbs > the visitors. > We might need some way to put the project on a ladder maybe? > > - We had two large Perl logos, the standing roll-up that was next to our stand > and the smaller one that we hanged behind the O'Reilly stand in the central > building. It was hanged there using masking tape - so maybe the new > buzz of Perl > could be "Perl is the masking tape of the Internet" or > "Perl stands behind O'Reilly" ;-) > > - Next time we could have a few large wall papers. We could hang them > on walls next to > our stand or in a more central location. In the latter case we > should also put directions > on how to get to our stand. > > - Each Perl Monger should get a name tag with the Perl logo, the name > of the person > and possibly also languages s/he is speaking. > That will help identify us both at the stand and when we are wondering > around. > > - T-shirts and sweaters in colder places for the team. > Some of us were in Perl T-shirts but it might be more attraction drawer if > we were all in the same T-shirt with a Perl logo just as all the PostgreSQL > people were in blue (or purple?) POstgreSQL shirts. For places where the > weather is colder like FOSDEM we should also provide sweaters. > (I was wearing a T-shirt with a Perl logo but most of the time it was too > cold for me so I had to be in a sweater that does not have any logo) > > - Scheduling who is at the stand when? > This time we only had a short time when it seemed that all of us are either > giving a talk or want to attend a talk so our stand always had at least one > person but it would be much better to schedule who is at the stand when. > This will let others wonder around and/or go to talks without worrying about > the stand. (I basically went only to my talks and the talks before mine, the > rest of the time I was either trying to engage people at other stands or was > around the stand.) > > - I brought two boxes of pens as I had just too much of them for my company. > They were gone quite quickly, though several people asked how much > do they cost. > > - We could have something to give in return of donations. > e.g. The PostgreSQL people were collecting donations and they had > various things with various price tags: > Small purple elephants for 25 EURO, and a big one is 100 EURO. > They also have blue relaxation ball for a few EUROs >and some other stuff. The revenue could finance >further events activity just as it does for the PostgreSQL team. > The ideas we had during the event were: > - plush camel > - plush Moose > - onion shaped relaxation ball (to squeeze) > - (
