On 17 March 2010 05:29, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
I think this is a dubious argument based on our lack of understanding of
qualia. Presumably one has many thoughts that do not result in any overt
action. So if I lost a few neurons (which I do continuously) it might mean
On 17 March 2010 06:09, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Stathis,
I feel we are riding the human restrictive imaging in a complex nature.
While I DO feel completely comfortable to say that there is a neuron through
which connectivity is established to a next segment in our mental
I'm quite confused about the state of zombieness. If the requirement
for zombiehood is that it doesn't understand anything at all but it
behaves as if it does what makes us not zombies? How do we not we are
not? But more importantly, are there known cases of zombies? Perhaps a
silly question
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From: Bruno Marchal
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Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry.
Or, are you saying here that choices made by the (3rd
person) UD tend to be influenced by one's
On 17 March 2010 23:47, HZ hzen...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm quite confused about the state of zombieness. If the requirement
for zombiehood is that it doesn't understand anything at all but it
behaves as if it does what makes us not zombies? How do we not we are
not? But more importantly, are
On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:47, HZ wrote:
I'm quite confused about the state of zombieness. If the requirement
for zombiehood is that it doesn't understand anything at all but it
behaves as if it does what makes us not zombies? How do we not we are
not? But more importantly, are there known cases of
On 17 Mar 2010, at 14:06, m.a. wrote:
But is there a deliberate feedback (of any kind) between first
person and UD?
No. The UD can be seen as a set of elementary arithmetical truth,
realizing through their many proofs, the many computations. It is the
least block-universe fro the
On 3/17/2010 3:34 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 17 March 2010 05:29, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
I think this is a dubious argument based on our lack of understanding of
qualia. Presumably one has many thoughts that do not result in any overt
action. So if I lost a
On 3/17/2010 5:47 AM, HZ wrote:
I'm quite confused about the state of zombieness. If the requirement
for zombiehood is that it doesn't understand anything at all but it
behaves as if it does what makes us not zombies? How do we not we are
not? But more importantly, are there known cases of
On 3/17/2010 10:01 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Mar 2010, at 13:47, HZ wrote:
I'm quite confused about the state of zombieness. If the requirement
for zombiehood is that it doesn't understand anything at all but it
behaves as if it does what makes us not zombies? How do we not we are
not?
Brent:
why do you believe IN *QUALIA?* they are just as human assumptions (in our
belief system) as* VALUE* (or, for that matter: to take seriously your
short (long?) term memories).
A* ZOMBIE* is the subject of a thought experiment in our humanly
aggrandizing anthropocentric boasting. A dog?
On 3/17/2010 11:39 AM, John Mikes wrote:
Brent:
why do you believe IN *QUALIA?* they are just as human assumptions
(in our belief system) as* VALUE* (or, for that matter: to take
seriously your short (long?) term memories).
I don't believe *IN* anything. They are just something that
Hi Gentlemen,
I start out with the bias that the brain as a neural network with ~
10^11 neurons, given the exogenous and endogenous inputs presented to
it, continuously computes our perception of the world around us.
Some neuroscientists suggest that each neuron in the brain is
Hi Bruno and Fellow Listers,
As I have been following this conversation a question
occurred to me, how is a Zombie (as defined by Chalmers et al.) any
different functionally from the notion of other persons (dogs, etc.) that a
Solipsist might have? They seem equivalent, both
On 18 March 2010 06:32, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote:
As I have been following this conversation a question
occurred to me, how is a Zombie (as defined by Chalmers et al.) any
different functionally from the notion of other persons (dogs, etc.) that a
Solipsist
On 18 March 2010 04:34, Brent Meeker meeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
However I think there is something in the above that creates the just a
recording problem. It's the hypothesis that the black box reproduces the
I/O behavior. This implies the black box realizes a function, not a
recording.
On 3/17/2010 9:28 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 18 March 2010 04:34, Brent Meekermeeke...@dslextreme.com wrote:
However I think there is something in the above that creates the just a
recording problem. It's the hypothesis that the black box reproduces the
I/O behavior. This implies
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