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  From: Bruno Marchal 
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  Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 2:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Free will: Wrong entry.





                    Or, are you saying here that choices made by the (3rd 
person) UD tend to be influenced by one's life-history to the extent of (often) 
providing the very alternatives that the (1st) person would have chosen? 


  Exactly. Except I would not say that the UD, or arithmetic, makes choices. 
But the first person did, and can realize her consistent choice. Our 
consciousness is related to the normal histories which makes us (the lobian 
numbers) having a relative partial self control with respect to our most 
probable universal history. That can be reflected in notion like 
responsibility, remorse, conscience, well founded feeling of guiltiness,  badly 
founded feeling of guiltiness, etc.).
   In other term free will is more related to determinist chaos, or Gödelian 
self-reference, than to the abrupt indeterminacy provided by the 'matter' of 
comp or  the 'matter' of quantum mechanics.

  But is there a deliberate feedback (of any kind) between first person and UD? 
How does the UD identify and favor our normal histories? How do the lobian 
numbers affect the UD. (I think you've answered these questions before but not 
in ways that are clear to me. Please give it one last try.)         m.a.





  Bruno




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