On 16 Aug 2011, at 17:27, benjayk wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:50, benjayk wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
All I can say to the debate whether your TOE is dependent on
consciousness
is that it may not assume consciousness, but this doesn't
On 17 Aug 2011, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 16, 1:49 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011, at 05:55, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Can you give me an example that supports this? We're embedded in a
reality whether we like it or not. I'm saying that the more similar
Hello Terren,
On 18 Aug 2011, at 03:52, Terren Suydam wrote:
Hey Bruno,
Given a machine's inability to prove its own consistency,
OK. That is Gödel's second incompleteness theorem.
and how this
result gives rise to the many logical distinctions that map to the
hypostases (per Plotinus)
On 17 Aug 2011, at 19:49, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 17.08.2011 02:01 Jason Resch said the following:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru
wrote:
On 15.08.2011 23:42 Jason Resch said the following:
...
But all of this is an aside from point that I was making
On 17 Aug 2011, at 20:07, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/17/2011 10:36 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 16.08.2011 20:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/16/2011 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, this is why in my first post, I said consider God's Turing
machine (free from our limitations). Then it
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial
sectioning of brains is being automated: http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/lichtman/ATLUM/ATLUM_web.htm
I have a question about this. Will this technology yield a model
On 17 Aug 2011, at 13:49, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:16 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
You miss my point. the brain is not replaced. It is just not
functionning at
all. The cosmic rays supplies only the motor control ouputs. It is
much less
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial
sectioning of brains is being automated:
http://www.mcb.harvard.edu/lichtman/ATLUM/ATLUM_web.htm I have a
question
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial sectioning of
brains is being automated:
On 8/18/2011 7:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree with that sentiment. That's why I often try to think of
consciousness in terms of what it would mean to provide a Mars Rover
with consciousness. According to Bruno the ones we've sent to Mars
were already conscious, since their computers
On 8/18/2011 8:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial
sectioning of brains is being automated:
On 18 Aug 2011, at 19:05, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/18/2011 7:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree with that sentiment. That's why I often try to think of
consciousness in terms of what it would mean to provide a Mars
Rover with consciousness. According to Bruno the ones we've sent
to Mars
On 8/18/2011 10:50 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 18 Aug 2011, at 19:05, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/18/2011 7:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I agree with that sentiment. That's why I often try to think of
consciousness in terms of what it would mean to provide a Mars
Rover with consciousness.
Hi Stephen,
On 18 Aug 2011, at 17:26, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial
sectioning of brains is being automated:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Aug 2011, at 17:27, benjayk wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:50, benjayk wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
Bruno Marchal wrote:
All I can say to the debate whether your TOE is dependent on
consciousness
is that it may not assume
On 8/18/2011 1:40 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/18/2011 8:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed how serial
sectioning of brains is being
On 8/18/2011 11:30 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/18/2011 1:40 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/18/2011 8:26 AM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 8/18/2011 10:31 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Hi Stephen,
On 17 Aug 2011, at 16:08, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi,
Recently a link was referenced that discussed
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:41 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
Good, so you agree that the idea of a partial zombie is absurd! So do
you now have an alternative explanation for what would happen if a
fuctionally identical part were substituted into your visual cortex,
where
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote:
I'm not saying we shouldn't do science, just that we can't be *sure*
that something which behaves as if it's conscious is actually
conscious. A thermostat may have a primitive consciousness or it
might not; I don't know.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi use...@rudnyi.ru wrote:
I'm not saying we shouldn't do science, just that we can't be *sure*
that something which behaves as if it's conscious is actually
On 8/18/2011 8:12 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Evgenii Rudnyiuse...@rudnyi.ru wrote:
I'm not saying we shouldn't do science, just that we can't be *sure*
that something which behaves as if it's conscious is actually
conscious. A thermostat may have a
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