On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
To act on itself, as far as I can understand it, would mean to be uncaused
or truly random, which is indeed incompatible with determinism. But why
should that have anything to do with intentionality?
What is
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto Corona):
We are machines, very sophisticated, but machines nonetheless and
doubly so!
I don't think we know that. This can only be an hypothesis, or a
consequence of an hypothesis. The same is true for the proposition we
are
On 08 Mar 2013, at 21:47, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/8/2013 2:27 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 05:37, Terren Suydam wrote:
Ah. That's above my pay grade unfortunately. But I don't think our
immediate failure to solve that problem dooms the idea that a
cat's experience of
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 1:01:50 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 , Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:
who would vow never to change their views?
The religious faithful.
I'm not sure I would say that is their view, so much as the view of an
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
How exactly such weights or probabilities of firing might work is not
understood, but Tse argues that weights would constitute informational
criteria as opposed to being simply physical.
I don't know who wrote the
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 1:35:20 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
How exactly such weights or probabilities of firing might work is not
understood, but Tse argues that weights would constitute
On 3/9/2013 7:00 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 21:47, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 3/8/2013 2:27 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 05:37, Terren Suydam wrote:
Ah. That's above my pay grade unfortunately. But I don't think our
immediate failure to solve that problem
On 3/9/2013 6:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 08 Mar 2013, at 13:58, Stephen P. King wrote (to Alberto Corona):
We are machines, very sophisticated, but machines nonetheless and
doubly so!
I don't think we know that.
Hi Bruno,
Of course we don't know that for sure... you are being
On 10/03/2013, at 6:03 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
But I can't blame you - all of your responses are generated randomly or
automatically
But you can blame me, it doesn't matter if its random or mechanistic
everybody is always responsible for their actions, or at
On 3/9/2013 2:23 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
In a deterministic universe, a person who is determined to steal a car will steal it
regardless of whether someone yells at them.
I don't think you know what deterministic means (hint: it doesn't mean
resolved).
Brent
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On Saturday, March 9, 2013 5:27:23 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 2:23 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
In a deterministic universe, a person who is determined to steal a car
will steal it regardless of whether someone yells at them.
I don't think you know what deterministic means
Determinism is the philosophical idea that every event or state of
affairs, including every human decision and action, is the inevitable and
necessary consequence of antecedent states of affairs. -
http://www.informationphilosopher.com/freedom/determinism.html
Craig
On Saturday, March 9,
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
They are not powerless to stop them since if someone yells, Hey, stop!
they may stop. This is the case even though the process is still
deterministic or probabilistic.
In a deterministic universe, a person who is
On 3/9/2013 2:36 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Determinism is the philosophical idea that every event or state of affairs, including
every human decision and action, is the inevitable and necessary consequence of
antecedent states of affairs. -
Including hearing the shout Stop! Note that it
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
They are not powerless to stop them since if someone yells, Hey,
stop!
they may stop. This is the case even though the process is still
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:00:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 2:36 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Determinism is the philosophical idea that every event or state of
affairs, including every human decision and action, is the inevitable and
necessary consequence of antecedent states
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
javascript:
wrote:
They are not powerless to stop them since if someone yells, Hey, stop!
they may
On 3/9/2013 4:10 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:00:17 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 2:36 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Determinism is the philosophical idea that every event or state of affairs,
including every human decision and action, is the inevitable
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
They are not powerless to stop them since
On 3/9/2013 4:48 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:13:38 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:48 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 6:30:53 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
In a deterministic universe it is determined whether the thief will
stop if someone yells at him. However, neither the person yelling nor
the thief knows for sure whether he will stop or not.
What difference would
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 9:11:11 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
In a deterministic universe it is determined whether the thief will
stop if someone yells at him. However, neither the person yelling
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
In the normal use of the word control a deterministic system can
control things. For example, an automatic pilot can control the plane.
An automatic pilot only controls the plane to the extent that it extends
human
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 9:50:10 PM UTC-5, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
In the normal use of the word control a deterministic system can
control things. For example, an automatic pilot can control the plane.
On 3/9/2013 5:53 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 8:13:38 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:48 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday, March 9, 2013 7:26:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
On 3/9/2013 4:06 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Saturday,
On 3/9/2013 6:23 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
An automatic pilot only controls the plane to the extent that it extends human
intentions to control the plane. The automatic pilot can just as easily be set to crash
the plane into a mountain as soon as possible and it won't know the difference or
On 3/9/2013 7:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
A person can resist their both their environment and genetic programming,
And you know this how?
Brent
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