RE: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 3:32 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk) On 4/15/2014 3:19 PM, LizR wrote: On 16 A

Re: Climate models

Pair bonding. A concept offered up by Ashly Montague. I don't think that many women would be thrilled with polygamy. They do much better with serial relationships. -Original Message- From: meekerdb To: everything-list Sent: Tue, Apr 15, 2014 12:38 pm Subject: Re: Climate models

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On 16 April 2014 10:32, meekerdb wrote: > On 4/15/2014 3:19 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 16 April 2014 09:42, meekerdb wrote: > >> What cultural ideas would those be? Get out of Viet Nam? Civil rights >> for blacks? The pill? >> >> Plus (off the top of my head (man)) - sexual freedom and equali

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On 4/15/2014 3:19 PM, LizR wrote: On 16 April 2014 09:42, meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote: What cultural ideas would those be? Get out of Viet Nam? Civil rights for blacks? The pill? Plus (off the top of my head (man)) - sexual freedom and equality, the anti-establishm

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On 16 April 2014 09:42, meekerdb wrote: > What cultural ideas would those be? Get out of Viet Nam? Civil rights > for blacks? The pill? > > Plus (off the top of my head (man)) - sexual freedom and equality, the anti-establishment vibe seen in Occupy, Wikileaks etc, freedom of expression, a raf

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On 4/15/2014 1:41 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:44 PM, meekerdb > wrote: On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated from synesthesia caused by psychadelics.

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:44 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated >> from synesthesia caused by psychadelics. >> >> Telmo. >> >> >> I had heard that Telmo. Do you have a reference, a link? >> > >

Re: Video of VCR

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 1:21:41 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 14 Apr 2014, at 21:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Sunday, April 13, 2014 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> > > >> That my sun in law might not be a zombie/doll. Comp assumes that the >> brain is Turin

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 12:44:32 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated >> from synesthesia caused by psychadelics. >> >> Telmo. >> >> >> I had heard that Telmo. Do you have a refere

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

From: meekerdb To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:44 PM Subject: Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk) On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: An interesting related hypothesis is that language or

Re: Video of VCR

On 14 Apr 2014, at 21:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, April 13, 2014 12:44:37 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: That my sun in law might not be a zombie/doll. Comp assumes that the brain is Turing emulable at some level of description. What does the brain being Turing emulable mean in th

Re: Climate models

This paper is the best I have seen as a method to construct a real AI: http://www.alexwg.org/publications/PhysRevLett_110-168702.pdf It is already built, it is just a matter of scaling it up But don't assume that such AI will perceive the same physical world as we do! On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 a

Re: Video of VCR

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:26:21 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Craig illustrates well that consciousness is in the true part, not in the > representation, but you need both to have a local particular person, > relatively to some universal number or system. > I agree that a local person

Re: Climate models

On 4/15/2014 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Read what I wrote. Machine intelligence is not a question of brickology. Intelligence is not something which can be engineered. It is a question of exploration of some reality, and it is a question of us being sufficiently inetlligent to recognize intel

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On 4/15/2014 4:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated from synesthesia caused by psychadelics. Telmo. I had heard that Telmo. Do you have a reference, a link? Unfortunately not. I think I heard in a talk. Might be related

Re: Climate models

On 4/15/2014 1:59 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Poligamy is common when big disparity of wealt, in low density coutries in harsh conditions or in societies where violence is increasing Do you thing that these conditions are in the aspirations of the civilized society?. The fact that

Re: Climate models

On 15 Apr 2014, at 00:30, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-14 17:59 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal : On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2014-04-12 19:42 GMT+02:00 Bruno Marchal : No doubt on this for me. Affordable, and with good user's manuals. Most pregnant kids get pregn

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > > On 15 Apr 2014, at 8:41 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > >> I'm especially fascinated by this theory that human consciousness got >> going via the plant teachers in the first place. >> >

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

> On 15 Apr 2014, at 8:41 pm, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote: >> I'm especially fascinated by this theory that human consciousness got going >> via the plant teachers in the first place. > > An interesting related hypothesis is that langua

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > I'm especially fascinated by this theory that human consciousness got > going via the plant teachers in the first place. > An interesting related hypothesis is that language originated from synesthesia caused by psychadelics. Telmo. > I was

Re: Graham Hancock on The Plant Teachers (Banned TED Talk)

I'm especially fascinated by this theory that human consciousness got going via the plant teachers in the first place. I was listening to Benjamin Britten's operatic version of "A Midsummer Night's Dream" the other day and it's easy to see that Shakespeare was fascinated by altered states of con

Re: Climate models

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Russell Standish wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:51:22PM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > Hi Alberto, > > > > > So who knows what our biological program looks like or how complex it is? > > There are compelling reasons to think that it is very complex indeed. F

Re: Climate models

On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > > > 2014-04-14 13:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes : > > Hi Alberto, >> >> What in my reasoning steps is wrong? >>> >> >> I find a number of problems with your reasoning: >> >> 1) You assume to know what the reproductive strategy of our spec

Re: Climate models

Thank you. Could you now please state the arguments plainly, so I can see what they actually are, shorn of the arrogance and disrespect. Also I would appreciate a considered response to my arguments. ---Liz's arguments, restated for your convenience--- On top of avoiding suffering for me and the

Re: Climate models

Bruno, Litz and everyone: I want to say sorry form muy arrogance and disrespect. The arguments remain. El 15/04/2014 00:37, "Alberto G. Corona" escribió: > > > > 2014-04-15 0:25 GMT+02:00 LizR : > >> On 15 April 2014 03:59, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 14 Apr 2014, at 09:40, Alberto G. Corona