Re: MWI question for the physicists...

2015-08-14 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 , Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​ And I have not yet see a proof that the multiverse is non local. ​That's because there is no such proof, but there is proof ​ ​that in any physical theory ​that is consistent with experiment *at least* one of the following must

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-08-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Aug 2015, at 22:28, John Clark wrote: ​People can believe all sorts of foolish things, but if a person enters a person duplicating machine ​that person will still have a unique past but will NOT have a unique future. Yes that is odd, but odd things happen when a person is

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Chris, when you can think of politicians and actors of your political preference, who behave idiotically: then you'd really be making a succinct point. The rationale being, if you agree with my position, thus, you are wonderful, but if you disagree, you are a moron. On this mailing list

Re: MWI question for the physicists...

2015-08-14 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​ Bell's 1964 paper only make quantitative what Einstein saw clearly already Bullshit. Einstein would have been horrified at Bell's paper and the experimental confirmation that Bell's inequality was violated. ​ ​ ​

Re: MWI question for the physicists...

2015-08-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Aug 2015, at 18:25, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​Bell's 1964 paper only make quantitative what Einstein saw clearly already Bullshit. Einstein would have been horrified at Bell's paper and the experimental

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
I am curious you seem to speak of idiots exclusively in terms of them of some other group of individuals. Do you consider yourself to be potentially an idiot or have you managed to achieve existential certainty that idiocy is something that only ever applies to other people? If you have

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread Kim Jones
Idiocy only ever applies to other people, yes. It's like sexual perversion and corruption; these things are done only by others, never by me! Why I speak of the need for some fabled 'test' - a bit like Alice drinking from the bottle marked 'drink me'. Alice was no idiot. She had the

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Idiot Test Chris, when you can think of politicians and actors of your political preference, who behave idiotically: then

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au To: everything-list@googlegroups.com everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 14, 2015 2:11 PM Subject: Re: Idiot Test Idiocy only ever applies to other people, yes. It's like sexual perversion and corruption; these things are

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread meekerdb
On 8/14/2015 2:11 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Idiocy only ever applies to other people, yes. It's like sexual perversion and corruption; these things are done only by others, never by me! Why I speak of the need for some fabled 'test' - a bit like Alice drinking from the bottle marked 'drink me'.

RE: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
I agree with you there…. Idiocy is the quintessential equal opportunity provider – (in a nod to your politically fixated mindset) it thrives exuberant, on both the right and the left. Idiocy is in full reign amongst the elite in their gilded enclaves and in the grimy dirty dangerous graffiti

Re: Idiot Test

2015-08-14 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I simply feel it is hard to identify idiocy when it hits closer to home. In fact, as I stated, holding a certain position or opinion may not, in fact be idiotic at all. I sometimes feel, some days, that if idiocy were nirvana, I would be achieving my zen moment with it. On this forum,

Re: MWI question for the physicists...

2015-08-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Aug 2015, at 08:26, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 , Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​And I have not yet see a proof that the multiverse is non local. ​That's because there is no such proof, but there is proof ​​ that in any physical theory ​that is consistent

Re: 1P/3P CONFUSION again and again

2015-08-14 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 14 Aug 2015, at 07:48, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: ​ ​​after the door is opened there is no such thing as the 1- view.​ ​ ​I have explained why this is directly refuted by all copies. ​So is THE 1-view a view of Moscow or