Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 12:26:16 AM UTC, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 7:37 PM, > wrote: > > ​>> ​ >> Everett wrote his paper in 1952 and Tegmark presented his claims many >> decades later. The only thing they have in common is the claim of many >> universes, >> > > ​*I'

Fwd: [math-fun] Deep Mind crushes chess

2017-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
The AI is coming for your job. Brent Forwarded Message https://chess24.com/en/read/news/deepmind-s-alphazero-crushes-chess "Stockfish is the reigning TCEC computer chess champion, and while it failed to make the final this year it went unbeaten in 51 games. In a match with t

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 7:37 PM, wrote: ​>> ​ > Everett wrote his paper in 1952 and Tegmark presented his claims many > decades later. The only thing they have in common is the claim of many > universes, > ​*I've read Tegmark and you haven't and I can tell you that Tegmark agrees with everything

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 3:58:21 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 05 Dec 2017, at 11:42, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 6:19:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 03 Dec 2017, at 18:21, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, Decem

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, December 6, 2017 at 4:01:31 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 05 Dec 2017, at 11:32, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:57:57 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:32:22 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com >>

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/6/2017 1:46 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I suspect that this is perhaps why Brent want to refer to the environment for relating consciousness to the machine, and in Artificial Intelligence, some people defend the idea that (mundane) consciousness occur only when the environment contradicts

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 02:36, David Nyman wrote: On 5 December 2017 at 01:11, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2017 4:59 PM, David Nyman wrote: On 2 December 2017 at 01:57, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/1/2017 5:21 PM, David Nyman wrote: On 2 December 2017 at 00:58, Brent Meeker wrote: On 1

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 11:32, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 7:57:57 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 5:32:22 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 at 3:59:19 AM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 11:42, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 6:19:01 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Dec 2017, at 18:21, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, December 3, 2017 at 2:07:17 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Dec 2017, at 00:20, agrays...@gmail.c

Re: Is AI really a threat to mankind?

2017-12-06 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > Yes. we are all robots. You are the only human mmwwahahah > > Every decade it is predicted that 50 years from now AI would surpass human > beings. > > The level of AI was pathetic 50 years ago. It is pathethic now and will be > pathetic 5

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 6/12/2017 9:59 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:30, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:34 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Dec 2017, at 04:34, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:11:11PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 3/12/2017 9:03 am, Russell Standish wrote: T

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 6/12/2017 10:13 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:48, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Dec 2017, at 05:17, Bruce Kellett wrote: We already know in this case that from the 1p perspective, nothing change, but the point is that the whole pict

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruce Kellett
On 6/12/2017 9:54 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:15 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: I think that is enough to get the macroscopic superposition, as, like I explained, you have to take into account not just the quantum indeterminacy, + the clas

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 02:05, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2017 4:48 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: Do you not understand that one of the enduring mysteries of quantum theory is the emergence of the classical world from the purely quantum substrate? Decoherence goes a long way towards answering th

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:48, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Dec 2017, at 05:17, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/12/2017 2:34 pm, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:11:11PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 3/12/2017 9:03 am, Russell Standish wrote:

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:30, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:34 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Dec 2017, at 04:34, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:11:11PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 3/12/2017 9:03 am, Russell Standish wrote: The point being that the uncertainty in the

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 Dec 2017, at 01:26, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 5/12/2017 3:15 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Dec 2017, at 01:49, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/12/2017 8:57 am, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 1/12/2017 4:21 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Nov 2017, at 23:16, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 30/11/2017 2:24 am

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2017, at 22:52, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, December 4, 2017 at 1:40:25 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 Dec 2017, at 22:58, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 4:55:46 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Nov 2017, at 22:55, agrays...@gmai

Re: Consistency of Postulates of QM

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2017, at 22:10, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2017 8:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Dec 2017, at 04:34, Russell Standish wrote: On Mon, Dec 04, 2017 at 02:11:11PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 3/12/2017 9:03 am, Russell Standish wrote: The point being that the uncertainty in t

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2017, at 21:51, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/4/2017 5:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Dec 2017, at 04:55, Brent Meeker wrote: On 12/1/2017 6:35 PM, David Nyman wrote: I think it likely that ability in humans co-evolved with the development of language. Did you ever read Ju

Re: Dreamless Sleep?

2017-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 Dec 2017, at 15:28, David Nyman wrote: On 4 December 2017 at 13:16, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Dec 2017, at 00:48, David Nyman wrote: On 1 December 2017 at 17:45, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Nov 2017, at 01:28, David Nyman wrote: https://www.sciencealert.com/your-consciousness-does