Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-23 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Chris, On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:57 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Telmo That sheds a little more light on where you're coming from. I watched those videos with interest and found the Austrian school fascinating. Apologies in advance for the length of this post

RE: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-22 Thread chris peck
Thanks Telmo That sheds a little more light on where you're coming from. I watched those videos with interest and found the Austrian school fascinating. Apologies in advance for the length of this post and for the howling errors in reasoning it undoubtedly contains. I’m just a beginner! So

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/18/2013 2:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Also, it's a funny moment in History to pretend that giving this much power to governments does not have consequences. What if the economy is saved but we end up living under a

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-19 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:34 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: @ Telmo Hi Telmo The key word here is leveraged. Ultimately, this level of leveraging is only possible because the Fed can create money out of thin air. You'll have to elaborate on that. As far as I am aware the

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Jul 2013, at 08:49, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:15 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/18/2013 2:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Also, it's a funny moment in History to pretend that giving this much power to governments does not have consequences. What if the

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-19 Thread Alberto G. Corona
These derivatives had not been sold if not for the euphoria generated by cheap credits deliberately promoted by the central Banks and the craziness of credit for everyone even if no assets, no income, no job, by Clinton´s Freeddy Fanny and the pressure of ACORN over the banks. So the ball goes

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-19 Thread John Mikes
Nobody raised the point that we are living in the aura of some obsolete dream about a world that is long gone and 'apply' the same words to regulate our lives in an advanced (completely changed) world (system) 2-300 years later. The world changed. We are obsolete. Nobody 'owns' NATURE, the

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:45 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: @ Telmo Free markets assume rational agents performing symmetrical transactions for their one self-interest. What we have in reality is a centralised secret bureaucracy with unchecked economical and regulatory

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread meekerdb
On 7/18/2013 2:27 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Also, it's a funny moment in History to pretend that giving this much power to governments does not have consequences. What if the economy is saved but we end up living under a modern global Stasi? This sounded like conspiracy theory stuff a few weeks

RE: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-18 Thread chris peck
@ Telmo Hi Telmo The key word here is leveraged. Ultimately, this level of leveraging is only possible because the Fed can create money out of thin air. You'll have to elaborate on that. As far as I am aware the banks were leveraged by money currently in circulation. Loans made by insurance

RE: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-17 Thread chris peck
@ Telmo Free markets assume rational agents performing symmetrical transactions for their one self-interest. What we have in reality is a centralised secret bureaucracy with unchecked economical and regulatory powers. The 70s through to the 00s was typified by the dismantling of

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:09 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Roger hmmm. sort of. Lowering interest rates, creating cheap money, in part encouraged banks to lend to people they ordinarily would not have. This put more buyers on the market and that increase in demand led to

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jul 2013, at 16:08, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:09 AM, chris peck chris_peck...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Roger hmmm. sort of. Lowering interest rates, creating cheap money, in part encouraged banks to lend to people they ordinarily would not have. This put more

RE: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-15 Thread chris peck
Hi Roger hmmm. sort of. Lowering interest rates, creating cheap money, in part encouraged banks to lend to people they ordinarily would not have. This put more buyers on the market and that increase in demand led to a rise in house prices. Of course, when the interest rates went up, those

Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-13 Thread Roger Clough
Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR There are two ways of cheapening money: mechanically, by printing it, and emoltionally, by making it more easily available (less desirable) by lowering the interest rates. There is also a way of enriching money, and that is by NOT doing

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-13 Thread John Mikes
How can an otherwise well educated and smart person write such stupidity? Capitalism creates wealth out of the sweat of the expolited and enslaved workforce they (the capitalists) keep on an economical/political leash. MONEY does not grow on trees. Doctor, you should know better! Dr. phil - D.Sc.