Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Dear Gabe, You may need to purge your browser's cache. Google Groups tend to turn the browser into a resource hog. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Gabe Bodeen wrote: > Hi Stephen, > I'm viewing these emails from Gmail. They don't show up on the list at > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!f

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Hi Stephen, I'm viewing these emails from Gmail. They don't show up on the list at https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/everything-list whether I am logged out or logged in. However, I can search for them on that webpage. If I click the search results, a fresh installation of Chrome fails to

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Dear Gage, Are you attempting to view the Google group from a Google+ or Gmail environment? On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Gabe Bodeen wrote: > (This and a few other everything-list messages were sent to my email box, > and I noticed that I hadn't seen them on the Google Groups website. S

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

(This and a few other everything-list messages were sent to my email box, and I noticed that I hadn't seen them on the Google Groups website. Sure enough, they're not visible there. I searched for them, and they show up in the search list, but if I click on them, Google Groups crashes. Any idea

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

On 17 Jan 2014, at 19:24, Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Bruno, I was not clear. Let me try again. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Bruno, Let me first say that I share your opinion of physicalism! My

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Dear Bruno, I was not clear. Let me try again. On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 4:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Dear Bruno, > > Let me first say that I share your opinion of physicalism! > > > My point is that it is the only opinion availabl

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

On 16 Jan 2014, at 15:18, Stephen Paul King wrote: Dear Bruno, Let me first say that I share your opinion of physicalism! My point is that it is the only opinion available to any self- referentially correct machines (believing in rationality and some amount of occam (the amount needed t

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Dear Bruno, Let me first say that I share your opinion of physicalism! As to the empirical evidence of inorganic minds. What behavior should we look for? I ask this with all seriousness, as I have been researching methods to detect AGI (another way to denote inorganic minds) and have found that

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

On 16 Jan 2014, at 04:02, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: http://www.edge.org/response-detail/25377 Neil Gershenfeld Physicist, Director, MIT's Center for Bits and Atoms; Author, FAB Totally agree: He blames Turing and von Neumann So do I. He assumes both comp and weak materialism. In fact som

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Colin Geoffrey Hales < cgha...@unimelb.edu.au> wrote: > http://www.edge.org/response-detail/25377 > > > > *Neil Gershenfeld* > > *Physicist, Director, MIT's Center for Bits and Atoms; Author, FAB* > > > > Totally ag

Re: Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

Hi Colin, I like that article, especially the part: "Turing and von Neumann understood the limits of their models; late in life they both studied computing in spatial structures, pattern formation for Turing and self-replication for von Neumann. But their legacy lives on in the instruction point

Edge.org: 2014 : WHAT SCIENTIFIC IDEA IS READY FOR RETIREMENT? Computer "Science"

http://www.edge.org/response-detail/25377 Neil Gershenfeld Physicist, Director, MIT's Center for Bits and Atoms; Author, FAB Totally agree: He blames Turing and von Neumann So do I. We stopped doing real empirical work on the inorganic brain 60 ye