Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-24 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 23, 7:44 pm, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: > [Col] Nope. They won't/don't. It may (not shown conclusively yet) cause > cellular malfunction in humans (like glioma). In inorganic replication, they > will not be subject to biological malfunction because all the biological > overheads are go

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: > [Col] I’ve just had a whole bunch of fun at the Melbourne Singularity > Summit. What a ‘hoot’! Really sorry I couldn't attend last weekend. -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

RE: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread Colin Geoffrey Hales
[Col] I've just had a whole bunch of fun at the Melbourne Singularity Summit. What a 'hoot'! At the conference I made a somewhat thwarted attempt to introduce physical replication as a 'roadmap item' for AGI. I tried to show that AGI may be reached by constructing the actual necessary physics of

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread meekerdb
On 8/23/2011 3:33 PM, Colin Geoffrey Hales wrote: I’ve just had a whole bunch of fun at the Melbourne Singularity Summit. What a ‘hoot’! At the conference I made a somewhat thwarted attempt to introduce physical replication as a ‘roadmap item’ for AGI. I tried to show that AGI may be reache

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 23, 5:53 pm, John Mikes wrote: > Stathis wrote: > > *"So you agree that chemistry, which is all that the brain contains, is > **no more magical than electronics?"* > * > * > * - - - -O B J E C T I O N ! - - -* > you added "which is all that the brain contains" smuggled into my position, > w

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread John Mikes
Stathis wrote: *"So you agree that chemistry, which is all that the brain contains, is **no more magical than electronics?"* * * * - - - -O B J E C T I O N ! - - -* you added "which is all that the brain contains" smuggled into my position, which contains ...all we know today and include into the

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-23 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 5:01 AM, John Mikes wrote: > Stathis, allow me to barge in before Craig. > I am glad you ask  -  the wrong question, > I am not FOR the brain to think, it is a tool working in the process we did > not so far deciphered. (That's exactly MY agnosticism). So we are talking > a

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-21 Thread John Mikes
Stathis, allow me to barge in before Craig. I am glad you ask - * the wrong question*, I am not FOR the brain to think, it is a tool working in the process we did not so far deciphered. (That's exactly MY agnosticism). So we are talking about tools, be it 'chemistry' (an explanational figment of c

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-21 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Aug 20, 9:36 pm, John Mikes wrote: > Craig, > you know more about the 'IBM-Synapse' achievement than myself (easy: I know > nothing, did not even thopughtfully decipher the article in all its > details). > I would ask IBM (they may not reply of course) if their machine (chip?) can > solve ANY t

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-21 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 11:36 AM, John Mikes wrote: > Craig, > you know more about the 'IBM-Synapse' achievement than myself (easy: I know > nothing, did not even thopughtfully decipher the article in all its > details). > I would ask IBM (they may not reply of course) if their machine (chip?) can

Re: IBM produces first 'brain chips'

2011-08-20 Thread John Mikes
Craig, you know more about the 'IBM-Synapse' achievement than myself (easy: I know nothing, did not even thopughtfully decipher the article in all its details). I would ask IBM (they may not reply of course) if their machine (chip?) can solve ANY technical problem barred by unsurmountable difficult