Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-oct.-08, à 19:11, Michael Rosefield a écrit : At some point, doesn't it just become far more likely that the teleporter just doesn't work? I know that might seem like dodging the question, but it might be fundamentally impossible to ignore all possibilities. In which theory? What

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 30-oct.-08, à 23:47, Kory Heath a écrit : On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication

Re: Emotions

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 31-oct.-08, à 06:39, Russell Standish a écrit : On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:48:11PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: ... Physical supervenience is the conjunction of the following assumptions: -There is a physical universe -I am conscious (consciousness exists) -(My) consciousness (at

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 31-oct.-08, à 10:40, Stathis Papaioannou a écrit : 2008/10/31 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/31 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree that a corpse can be considered as blind, deaf, amnesic and paralytic. But a corpse does not vehiculate a person. A blind, deaf, amnesic and paralytic is not necessarily a corpse. It could vehiculate a person which, although blind, deaf,

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/31 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But there are many ways for what comes out of the teleporter to *not* be you. Most of them are puddles of goo, but some of them are copies of Bruno or imperfect copies of me or people who never existed before. Suppose it's a copy of you as you were

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
2008/10/31 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the imperfect duplication (assuming 1/2 is the perfect one). But of course you have to

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 31 Oct 2008, at 13:00, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: 2008/10/31 Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree that a corpse can be considered as blind, deaf, amnesic and paralytic. But a corpse does not vehiculate a person. A blind, deaf, amnesic and paralytic is not necessarily a corpse. It

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Oct 2008, at 23:58, Brent Meeker wrote: Kory Heath wrote: On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:06 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: But ok, perhaps I have make some progress lately, and I will answer that the probability remains invariant for that too. The probability remains equal to 1/2 in the

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Kory Heath
On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information down to the molecular level, or even the neuron level. I agree, but that doesn't change the point I was trying to

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Quentin Anciaux
Hi, 2008/10/31 Kory Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information down to the molecular level, or even the neuron level. I agree, but

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Brent Meeker
Kory Heath wrote: On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information down to the molecular level, or even the neuron level. I agree, but that doesn't change

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: Hi, 2008/10/31 Kory Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information down to the molecular level, or even the

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread John Mikes
Bruno, your explanations were closer to me than many lately and I found the crucial point(s) in my not-understanding. Let me try to point to it as incerted into your text by [JM: .] lines John On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:59 AM, Bruno Marchal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30 Oct 2008, at

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2008/10/31 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quentin Anciaux wrote: Hi, 2008/10/31 Kory Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in the sense of strict identity of information down

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Brent Meeker
Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2008/10/31 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quentin Anciaux wrote: Hi, 2008/10/31 Kory Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Oct 30, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: Of course the point is that you're not the same you from moment to moment in

Re: QTI euthanasia

2008-10-31 Thread Michael Rosefield
I'd love to make a serious comment at this point, but every one I can think of involves I am Spartacus jokes. Sorry. 2008/11/1 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2008/10/31 Brent Meeker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quentin Anciaux wrote: Hi, 2008/10/31 Kory Heath [EMAIL