Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Oct 2011, at 20:15, meekerdb wrote: On 10/8/2011 5:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 07 Oct 2011, at 19:45, meekerdb wrote: On 10/7/2011 6:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Indeed with comp, or with other everything type of theories, the problem is that such fantasy worlds might be too much

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Oct 2011, at 20:51, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 13:14, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Oct 2011, at 21:59, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Oct 2011, at 21:00, benjayk wrote: I don't see why. Concrete objects can be

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 08 Oct 2011, at 21:00, benjayk wrote: I'm not saying that arithmetic isn't an internally consistent logic with unexpected depths and qualities, I'm just saying it can't turn blue or taste like broccoli. Assuming non-comp. There is no assumption needed for that. It is a category error

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread David Nyman
On 9 October 2011 14:37, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: Can you find any number(s) flying around that has any claim to an internal view right now? Yes. Although the number per se, like programs and brains, will refer only to the relations that the 1-person associated with that number

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread John Mikes
In the Bruno - Brent exchange I enjoyed Bruno''s remarks Usually I agree with BrentM. Probability (in my terms) means a distribution within infinite bounds, no specifics for probable/non probable. The 'fantasy-world' of physics is a time-related explanatory Procrustean bed for those partly (maybe

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 21:00, benjayk wrote: I'm not saying that arithmetic isn't an internally consistent logic with unexpected depths and qualities, I'm just saying it can't turn blue or taste like broccoli. Assuming non-comp. There is no assumption needed for

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2011-10-09 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 9, 12:09 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Oct 8, 12:12 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: Of

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2011-10-09 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Oct 8, 7:21 pm, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/10/8 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com On Oct 8, 12:12 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: Of course all the parts of

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread meekerdb
On 10/9/2011 3:05 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Depends on what you mean by the whole of physics. Good question. When physics is inferred from observation, there is no conceptual mean to distinguish physics from geography, except for a fuzzy level of generality. But UDA explains where the

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 20:51, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 13:14, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Oct 2011, at 21:59, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Oct 2011, at 21:00, benjayk wrote: I don't see why.

Re: COMP is empty(?)

2011-10-09 Thread benjayk
benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 20:51, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 08 Oct 2011, at 13:14, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Oct 2011, at 21:59, benjayk wrote: Bruno Marchal wrote: On 03 Oct 2011, at 21:00, benjayk wrote: