Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and thus to contain universal internal observers,  leads already to indeterminist first person realities (even without comp, although it is simpler to

Does somebody know what Vacuum is ?

2012-05-16 Thread socra...@bezeqint.net
Does somebody know what Vacuum is ? 1. Book : ‘Dreams of a final theory’ by Steven Weinberg. Page 138. ‘ It is true . . . there is such a thing as absolute zero; we cannot reach temperatures below absolute zero not because we are not sufficiently clever but because temperatures below absolute

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 2:39 am, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and thus to contain universal internal observers,  leads already to indeterminist

Re: Poking the bear.

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
Cool. I commented there and on my blog: http://s33light.org/post/23162796054 Craig On May 15, 11:53 pm, Colin Geoffrey Hales cgha...@unimelb.edu.au wrote: Hi all, You might be interested in a little article I wrote, published here:

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 May 2012, at 19:44, Craig Weinberg wrote: On May 15, 1:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and thus to contain universal internal observers, leads already to indeterminist first person realities (even without

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 10:41 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 15 May 2012, at 19:44, Craig Weinberg wrote: On May 15, 1:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: But a deterministic world, if rich enough to add and multiply, and thus to contain universal internal observers,  

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread John Clark
On Tue, May 15, 2012 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what a sore looser would say after he'd been thoroughly beaten by a opponent. If I were beaten by a human opponent, why would I accuse them of not making decisions? What does winning or losing a game against a

Re: Poking the bear.

2012-05-16 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 16.05.2012 05:53 Colin Geoffrey Hales said the following: Hi all, You might be interested in a little article I wrote, published here: http://theconversation.edu.au/learning-experience-lets-take-consciousness-in-from-the-cold-6739 I am embarked on the long process of getting science to

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 16, 12:41 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012  Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what a sore looser would say after he'd been thoroughly beaten by a opponent. If I were beaten by a human opponent, why would I accuse them of not

Re: Dualism via Quantum Mechanics

2012-05-16 Thread stephenk
On May 12, 8:00 pm, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote:  On 5/12/2012 10:19 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, scerir sce...@libero.it wrote: A few quotes below to dualism

Re: Free will in MWI

2012-05-16 Thread John Clark
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote I don't say that [the free will noise] means you're not deterministic, I would be glad to hear you say that except that according to illogical Weinbergian logic just because something is not not deterministic does not