divine selection versus natural selection

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Bruno Marchal According to the Bible, belief is a product of faith or trust, and that trust does not come from you, it is a gift from God. We have nothing to do with it, at least that isa what we Lutherns believe. Roger , rclo...@verizon.net 8/20/2012 Leibniz would say, If there's no

The logic of agendas

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy and all The logic of an Agenda is purposeful or goal-oriented, what Aristotle called final causation. where an object is PULLED forward by a goal. By what should be. This is the opposite of efficient causation, as in determinism, in which objects are PUSHED forward.

Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Stephen P. King Mereology is part and parcel of Leibniz's system, to use a limp pun. 1) Although unproven, but because God is good while the world is contingent (imperfect, misfitting), Leibniz, like Augustine and Paul, believed that things as a whole work for good, but unfortunately not

The modal logic needs to aim purposefully toward the best possible solution.

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Stephen P. King The modal logic needs to aim purposefully toward the best possible solution. And contain absolute as well as contingent truths. Thus there must be some sort of mereology involved in the modalities. Maybe a new type of copula insuring this situation to hold ? Roger ,

Godel and Leibniz's contingent world

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Stephen P. King Ah so. I can point leibniz's critics to Godel. And to the contingency of the world. What did you expect ? A rose garden ? Leibniz sort of sensed Godel's theorem by his recognition that while things must be perfect in Heaven, down here things were contingent, iffy,

Re: Re: On comp and the is-ought problem of Hume

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi meekerdb All's well in Heaven, but down here on earth things are a little messier. Heaven is what should be, down here is what is. This conflict earns preachers a nice life. The Christian solution to this dilemma is that God solved it a long time ago by allowing his son to be crucified and

Re: Re: On comp and the is-ought problem of Hume

2012-08-20 Thread Alberto G. Corona
In evolutionary terms, is and ougth reflect the double nature of a social being which has not lost is individuality, as individual and as a member of a bigger whole. Both are in tension. The social whole is also in our instinctive individual nature,and appear to the conscious trough intuitions and

Re: The logic of agendas

2012-08-20 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
Hi Roger, That's just too trivial as a solution, although nothing finally is: the attractor of dynamical systems and phase space are fascinating, although I fail to see how the discussion advances through them. There is something difficult about power/control, even speaking restricting to

Re: divine selection versus natural selection

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger, Divine selection and natural selection are sourced, however at differing levels of information integration, in the universal CYM monad subspace. Belief can also be a product of science. I believe science. Richard On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Roger rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi

Re: Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Wiki: Mereology has been axiomatized in various ways as applications of predicate logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicate_logic to formal ontologyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_ontology, of which mereology is an important part. A common element of such axiomatizations is the assumption,

Re: The modal logic needs to aim purposefully toward the best possible solution.

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
My belief based on string theory is that monad logic gets applied to produce the best possible world at the level of quantum particle interactions where the best of several quantum states is chosen in every interaction in the universe by the ,monads. Richard Ruquist PhD On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at

Re: Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Roger, On 8/20/2012 6:48 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Mereology is part and parcel of Leibniz's system, to use a limp pun. I like puns! They show us that existence does not just have one side/form/pattern/perspective... 1) Although unproven, but because God is good while the

Re: The modal logic needs to aim purposefully toward the best possible solution.

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/20/2012 6:54 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Stephen P. King The modal logic needs to aim purposefully toward the best possible solution. Hi Roger, But the best possible can only be defined infinitely (and thus impossible to know) or finitely in a error-prone or approximate way. And contain

Re: Godel and Leibniz's contingent world

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/20/2012 7:04 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Stephen P. King Ah so. I can point leibniz's critics to Godel. And to the contingency of the world. What did you expect ? A rose garden ? Leibniz sort of sensed Godel's theorem by his recognition that while things must be perfect in Heaven, down here

Re: Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/20/2012 11:36 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Wiki: Mereology has been axiomatized in various ways as applications of predicate logic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predicate_logic to formal ontology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_ontology, of which mereology is an important part. A common

Re: Is convergence a unique test for pi ?

2012-08-20 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 19 Aug 2012, at 17:22, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: Citeren Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be: On 18 Aug 2012, at 17:19, Roger wrote: Hi Bruno Marchal Yes, you can square the square root of any number to test its accuracy, but there are a variety of algorithms used to calculate pi.

Re: Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Ruquist
Hi Stephan, I do not think that string theory requires a fixed background. Otherwise string theory could not be a prospective ToE. Richard On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:27 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.netwrote: On 8/20/2012 11:36 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Wiki: Mereology has been

Neurolaw

2012-08-20 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I have listened to Philosophy of Science: Bolinda Beginner Guides by Geoffrey Gorham. The author has mentioned about a new discipline, neurolaw and I believe that could be useful for the ongoing discussion on the free will. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurolaw Neurolaw is an emerging field

Re: Leibniz's theodicy: a nonlocal and hopefully best mereology

2012-08-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 8/20/2012 1:40 PM, Richard Ruquist wrote: Hi Stephan, I do not think that string theory requires a fixed background. Otherwise string theory could not be a prospective ToE. Richard Hi Richard, I had the very same reaction, but research it for yourself. Look at the literature, the

Stephen and Bruno

2012-08-20 Thread Roger
Hi Bruno and Stephen I want to inform you that you are wrong in all of your writings. Please understand how very incorrect you are about everything you post! Why are you so wrong. Roger -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To

Re: Stephen and Bruno

2012-08-20 Thread meekerdb
On 8/20/2012 5:16 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Bruno and Stephen I want to inform you that you are wrong in all of your writings. Please understand how very incorrect you are about everything you post! Why are you so wrong. Roger I glad Roger cleared that up. :-) Brent Shut up he explained.

Re: The Unreality of Time

2012-08-20 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:30 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 7/31/2012 10:48 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The problem is to explain also why the entropy of the early universe was so low. If you just accept that this is the case and also don't bother about the very distant