On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 02:10:51PM -0800, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything
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> Russell’s observation that “The ultimate theory of everything is just a
> theory of nothing.” seems intuitively correct to me… though I have no
> rigorous proof for this sense of it ringing true
Russell ~ nicely summed up [is there a pun in what I just said?] I like that
subtle meta information that the sum entirety of all information of everything
is all on the left hand of an equation with no information in it at all when
taken as a whole. I like the focus that this way of putting it
> On 5 Jan 2015, at 2:57 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 4 Jan 2015, at 2:47 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> But this "fearing of God" is a mystery to me. God should be good. Only the
>>> devil should be feared. (between us).
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On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 3:04 AM, meekerdb wrote:
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> You mean their assertion of that is clear. It's begging the question to
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It's clear to everybody who has
Chris,
I have nothing important to say! :-) Nothing and something are kind
of good areas for puns, double entendres and jokes. After all, Jerry
Seinfeld had a whole show about nothing!
>Roger – you have much to say about nothing [just joking]
You mentioned:
>I agree with the distin
On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:33 AM, wrote:
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> >> I've been over this many times on this list, a rock may be conscious
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If the rock behaved intelligently then I would think it's conscious, but it
doesn't so I don't. But
For me the reason of the failure of the USSR was so accelerated for the
same reasons why other democracies are corrupted and degenerated, but while
the democracies dismiss and erodes progressively the pre-political grounds
that guarantee personal freedom, Comunism directly tries to eliminate such
p
Russell ~ got to say that you nailed it on the head, with this statement: “Thus
it appears that emergence stands in opposition to reductionism, a paradigm of
understanding something by studying its constituent parts. To someone wedded to
the notion of reductionism, emergence can appear rather my
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I hope Russell's theory of nothing is getting due attention.
Russell’s observation that “The ultimate theory of everything is just a theory
of nothing.” seems intuitively correct to me
On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote:
> By your post, it seems you do not believe in a primary biological reality
> or even a chemical universe.
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I don't know, give me some examples of "a primary biological reality" and
"a chemical universe" and I'll be able to tell you if I believe in them
I published several times on various lists - including this one - my
stance about that
*OXYMORON *'democracy' called so because the 'demos' (i.e. all of us)
cannot exercise 'kratos'
(governing power) to everyone's satisfaction in the variety we represent
genetically, mentally, in interests and tas
I hope Russell's theory of nothing is getting due attention.
On 5 January 2015 at 08:26, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to
dialectics?
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On 1/4/2015 7:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
"You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God
hates all the same people you do."
- Anne Lamott
Good point.
Of course today we know that God has created the cat in his own image, and that he
create
On 1/4/2015 1:09 AM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:17 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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If everything exists, what doesn't exist? Nothing.
If nothing existed; would it remain nothing?
-Chris
Brent
You are both missing
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Careful not confusing "Nothing exists" and "Nothing exist". In the first
> case, something exists. But not necessarily in the second case
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If "nothing" means no-thing, and that is certainly how that English word
originated, then the meani
On 04 Jan 2015, at 02:14, zibblequib...@gmail.com wrote:
In the first instance I'm posting this recently accepted paper (link
is to full paper), for Bruno and Brent reference a recent discussion
between them about the part of large scale religion in the emergence
of ever-more complex socie
On 04 Jan 2015, at 07:49, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/3/2015 9:50 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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Here's a mystic who knew the purpose of religion. I well remember
the ad
On 04 Jan 2015, at 05:33, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Bruno Marchal
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> Are only 0, s(0), s(s(0)), ... primary? or should we also insist
that addition and multiplication are primary.
You tell me, you're the one who asked "Do you believe in a PRIMARY
physical
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 'Roger' via Everything List <
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> Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems
> important to know why everything exists.
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Even if the word "klogknee" has no use because everything is klogknee, is
it importan
I agree.
Frijtfof Capra, also.
But this illustrates my point. As long as non confessional theology
does not come back to academy, we open the road of the lack of rigor
in the field, and we provide jobs to the charlatans, and retired
Doctors.
Actually, theology has been ejected out of the
On 03 Jan 2015, at 16:21, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
Neither the USSR was democratic neither democracy means freedom. I
said to you that democracy is a bad name, a wildcard that each one
fill with underserved and unjustified attirbuted, a symbol of
freedom that does not deserve it.
It is
On 04 Jan 2015, at 09:05, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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Subject: Re: Democracy
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On 04 Jan 2015, at 00:30, Kim Jones wrote:
On 4 Jan 2015, at 2:47 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
But this "fearing of God" is a mystery to me. God should be good.
Only the devil should be feared. (between us).
Is the devil "not-God"?
Yes, we can say that in the Platonic context where the G
On 03 Jan 2015, at 23:39, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/3/2015 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 03 Jan 2015, at 09:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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There are previous evolutionary studies of religion leaded by David Sloan
Wilson.
I think that they only scratch the surface. But it is a good start. I wrote
in this group about the need of human sacrifices to create an stable
society if natural selection and game theory are accepted as premises
> On 3 Jan 2015, at 5:17 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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> If everything exists, what doesn't exist? Nothing.
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> -Chris
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> Brent
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You are both missing the main question: what was there before there was
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In regard to:
"If nothing existed; would it remain nothing?"
This is exactly what I'm suggesting. It would not remain "nothing". We
usually think of the situation when you get rid of all matter, energy
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Subject: Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum theory to
dialectics?
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Subject: Re: Democracy
On 03 Jan 2015, at 09:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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