Hi Bruno,
I'm quoting your response to an older post because I have a
residual question. If "I" improve my ability to select the best future
outcomes, don't "I" also choose the worst ones according to MWI and the rule of
sum-over-histories? I seem to be competing against myself
Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 02 Dec 2008, at 20:06, Brent Meeker wrote:
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>> Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> - technical footnote to be seen by technically inclined
>>> reader -
>>> (*) I think that not so much people here realize that the Universal
Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 02 Dec 2008, at 22:24, Brent Meeker wrote:
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>>> Alice's brain and body are "just" local stable artifacts belonging to
>>> our (most probable) computational history, and making possible for
>>> Alice consciousness to differentiate through interacti
Bruno Marchal wrote:
> Hi Abram,
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> On 02 Dec 2008, at 20:33, Abram Demski wrote:
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>> Bruno,
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>> I am a bit confused. To me, you said
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>>> Or, you are weakening the physical supervenience
>>> thesis by appeal to a notion of causality which seems to me a bit
>>> magical, and contrary to the
Hi Ronald,
(Please let me quickly say something to Abram and Jason:
Abram, Jason, I will have to go. I will comment your posts tomorrow)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Bruno:
> We may be talking different thing but the TOE for Physics does not
> exist yet.
I agree. But there are interesting c
On 02 Dec 2008, at 00:16, Kim Jones wrote:
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> On 02/12/2008, at 4:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> Hi Kim,
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>> On 28 Nov 2008, at 09:54, Kim Jones wrote:
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>>> How is it - dans les termes comprehensibles a un gamin comme moi -
>>> that because I am a machine, SANS des MATHEMATIQUES
Bruno,
I think I see better now. Here is my explanation of why the causality
I am invoking is not "magical" (and why it may not be an objection to
your argument after all).
Generally, the way I was viewing your argument was in terms of a
hypothetical definition of consciousness, X, that is to be
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> and that by virtue of this imposed order, defines relations between
> particles. Computation depends on relations, be it electrons in silicon,
> Chinese with radios or a system of beer cans and ping-pong balls;
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> H
On 03 Dec 2008, at 05:58, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> All this is a bit complex because we have to take well into account
> the distinction between
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> A computation in the "real" world,
> A description of a computa
Bruno:
We may be talking different thing but the TOE for Physics does not
exist yet. I would think it would be QM and General Relativity and
other things we do not know.
Could this program be running an evolving mathematical structure
or maybe you prefer evolving block universe/multiverse?
2008/12/1 Kory Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ok, I'm with you so far. But I'd like to get a better handle your
> concept of a computation in Platonia. Here's one way I've been
> picturing "platonic computation":
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> Imagine an infinite 2-dimensional grid filled with the binary digits
> of PI. Now
On 02/12/2008, at 9:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
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> On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 10:16:27AM +1100, Kim Jones wrote:
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>> Genial. Faites-entrer les gosses
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>> Kim
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> Speaking of which, my son who is now 10, but was 8 when I wrote my
> book really got into it. I think he enjoyed th
On 02 Dec 2008, at 20:06, Brent Meeker wrote:
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> Bruno Marchal wrote:
> ...
>> - technical footnote to be seen by technically inclined
>> reader -
>> (*) I think that not so much people here realize that the Universal
>> Machine and the Universal
On 02 Dec 2008, at 22:24, Brent Meeker wrote:
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>> Alice's brain and body are "just" local stable artifacts belonging to
>> our (most probable) computational history, and making possible for
>> Alice consciousness to differentiate through interactions with us,
>> relatively to us.
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>>
Hi Abram,
On 02 Dec 2008, at 20:33, Abram Demski wrote:
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> Bruno,
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> I am a bit confused. To me, you said
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>> Or, you are weakening the physical supervenience
>> thesis by appeal to a notion of causality which seems to me a bit
>> magical, and contrary to the local functionalism of the
>> com
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