Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
Rex Allen wrote: On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: You seem to be reading a lot into my post. Ha! Ya, once I got going I figured I'd just throw everything in there and see if any of it elicited any interesting feedback. I never said that c

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > You seem to be reading a lot into my post. Ha! Ya, once I got going I figured I'd just throw everything in there and see if any of it elicited any interesting feedback. > I never said that > consciousness is an illusion. In fact I didn't s

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
Rex Allen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > >> Rex Allen wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Brent Meeker >>> wrote: >>> >>> Rex Allen wrote: > What is your alternative to the "everything" universal acid? That >>

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > Rex Allen wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Brent Meeker >> wrote: >> >>> Rex Allen wrote: >>> What is your alternative to the "everything" universal acid?  That things just are the way they are (uniquely), and there's ulti

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Brent Meeker
I mark my small part below with brackets [ ]. John Mikes wrote: > Rex, or Brent? (I am mixed up between th (>->>)s and the unmarked > text. No signature. > I rather paste my cpmment to the end of this posting, since it > pertains to the last par.-s. > John M > > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:00 PM, R

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread benjayk
Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> And what do you mean by "stay there"? Forever? Why should you stay >> there >> (can you choose)? And where is there? Is it forgetfulness oder >> remembrance? > > It is very difficult to describe any first person experience. We > cannot even describe normal sta

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread John Mikes
Rex, or Brent? (I am mixed up between th (>->>)s and the unmarked text. No signature. I rather paste my cpmment to the end of this posting, since it pertains to the last par.-s. John M On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Rex Allen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:35 PM, Brent Meeker > wrote: > >

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Jason Resch
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:35 PM, soulcatcher☠ wrote: > > Are you physicalist? > > I just don't know. > All my everyday experience points towards physicalism: I'm a brain, > embodied in a physical body, embedded in a physical environment and > evolved via several billion year selection process. All

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread John Mikes
Dear Bruno, on diverse lists (I cannot call them 'science-branches' since lately most domains are discussed in considering aspects of several of such on the diverse discussion-lists)- CONCEPTS (I wish I knew a better word) appear by different content. If somebody has the time and feels like (k

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread soulcatcher☠
> Are you physicalist? I just don't know. All my everyday experience points towards physicalism: I'm a brain, embodied in a physical body, embedded in a physical environment and evolved via several billion year selection process. All the constituents of my mind could be explained in the evolutiona

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Dec 2009, at 05:21, Johnathan Corgan wrote: > On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Bruno Marchal > wrote: > >>> All of this indicates that salvinorin A has potent but short-lived >>> effects on the brain systems involved in memory, identity, body >>> image >>> and perception of time and spa

Re: Why I am I?

2009-12-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Dec 2009, at 05:07, benjayk wrote: > > > Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> It is actually an art to find the dosage and the timing so that you >> understand better some, well, let us say statements you get there. >> One >> is just impossible to memorize, or you stay there, and a copy is send >>