Re: For John Clark

On 03 Nov 2013, at 16:22, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > The prediction, asked in Helsinki, concerned the 1-views, And John Clark asks "the prediction concerns the first person view of who?" and Bruno answers "the first person view of you" No.

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

Oops I didn't mean to libel de Sade. Of course liking him doesn't necessarily reflect on *him *(see Neitzsche for more details). Re Newton, I thought it because I read something like this: Newton's famous phrase "If I have seen further than others, then it is because I have stood on the shoulders

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On 11/3/2013 7:04 PM, LizR wrote: Brent... Agree 100%, Rand sounds like a ghastly unempathic admirer of fascism and probably the Maquis de Sade. Actually that's libeling the Marquis de Sade who was thoughtful man who happened to like kinky sex and didn't believe in hypocrisy. http://www.sa

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On 11/3/2013 6:37 PM, John Mikes wrote: My idea (as I voiced it several times) the 'oldies' of the Supremes should be retired after - say - 20 years of being separated from the real world in the*Ivory Tower of the Hi Court.* Nobody can maintain an active understanding of the problems */OF OTHER

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

Brent... Agree 100%, Rand sounds like a ghastly unempathic admirer of fascism and probably the Maquis de Sade. (By the way I think that quote from Newton was originally intended ironically :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group.

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

My idea (as I voiced it several times) the 'oldies' of the Supremes should be retired after - say - 20 years of being separated from the real world in the* Ivory Tower of the Hi Court.* Nobody can maintain an active understanding of the problems *OF OTHERS* after such period of just looking D O

RE: Our Demon-Haunted World

LOL -- totally -- who exactly is this undefined "many" that considers Scalia to be an intellectual? I am more inclined to think of him as a well enumerated prostitute, but that's just how I see things :) Must not be a member of this many I guess. -Original Message- From: everything-list@g

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On 11/3/2013 3:17 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: >On 11/3/2013 10:49 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >>Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is considered by many to be a >>intellectual, in fact the leading intellectual on the Supreme Court, > > >Of course t

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 11:51 PM, meekerdb wrote: > On 11/3/2013 10:49 AM, John Clark wrote: >> >> Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is considered by many to be a >> intellectual, in fact the leading intellectual on the Supreme Court, > > > Of course that "many" consists of bible thumping Tea Ba

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

On 11/3/2013 10:49 AM, John Clark wrote: Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is considered by many to be a intellectual, in fact the leading intellectual on the Supreme Court, Of course that "many" consists of bible thumping Tea Baggers, worshipers of Ayn Rand, and snake handlers who have gen

Re: For John Clark

On 11/3/2013 1:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Nov 2013, at 21:47, meekerdb wrote: On 11/2/2013 10:53 AM, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Quentin Anciaux > wrote: >> You have been duplicated so there are TWO FIRST PERSON POV and they bo

Re: Our Demon-Haunted World

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Our Demon-Haunted World

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia is considered by many to be a intellectual, in fact the leading intellectual on the Supreme Court, and yet we get the following exchange between Jennifer Senior of New York Magazine and Scalia that happened just 2 weeks ago but could have come straight out of t

Re: For John Clark

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > So "you" sees both Moscow AND Washington. > > > No, anyone of the two see only one city. > So what is the one and only one city that the 2 you see. > > "you" are both of them, > Yes, but both see only one city. > Yes, and if b

Re: For John Clark

Hi John, On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:13 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 Telmo Menezes wrote: > >> > John, you are the guy who explained Bell's inequality in a very >> > compelling way. You're obviously smart >> > > I’m blushing. > > >> >> > so why are you only engaging in personal atta

Re: For John Clark

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 2:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 03 Nov 2013, at 09:17, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 02 Nov 2013, at 20:11, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> >

Re: For John Clark

John, You seemed convinced that observers within duplicated but divergent simulations cannot distinguish their observations from a single course that evolves randomly. Why not proceed to the next step? Jason On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 9:22 AM, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM,

Re: For John Clark

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > The prediction, asked in Helsinki, concerned the 1-views, > > And John Clark asks "the prediction concerns the first person view of who?" and Bruno answers "the first person view of you" and John Clark asks "who is you?" and Bruno answers "

Re: For John Clark

On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 Telmo Menezes wrote: > John, you are the guy who explained Bell's inequality in a very > compelling way. You're obviously smart > > I’m blushing. > > so why are you only engaging in personal attacks? > If I think somebody's ideas are gibberish I'm going to say their gibber

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Leibniz : What is beyond the spacetime barrier ? Mind.

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Re: For John Clark

On 03 Nov 2013, at 09:17, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 Nov 2013, at 20:11, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Oct 2013, at 19:30, Jason Resch wrote: Normally this is explained in

Re: For John Clark

On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 02 Nov 2013, at 20:11, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> >> On 19 Oct 2013, at 19:30, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >>> Normally this is explained in Albert's book, which I think y

Re: For John Clark

On 02 Nov 2013, at 21:47, meekerdb wrote: On 11/2/2013 10:53 AM, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> You have been duplicated so there are TWO FIRST PERSON POV and they both remember writing the diary, so which one is Bruno Marchal talking about?

Re: For John Clark

On 02 Nov 2013, at 20:11, Jason Resch wrote: On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 19 Oct 2013, at 19:30, Jason Resch wrote: Normally this is explained in Albert's book, which I think you have. Are you referring to "Quantum Mechanics and Experience" (1992)? I

Re: For John Clark

On 02 Nov 2013, at 18:53, John Clark wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote: >> You have been duplicated so there are TWO FIRST PERSON POV and they both remember writing the diary, so which one is Bruno Marchal talking about? > Anyone of the two So "you" sees bo