Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 10/05/2016 1:06 pm, smitra wrote: On 10-05-2016 01:35, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 10/05/2016 2:42 am, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 07:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 3:17 pm, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: The idea that Alice splits further into different

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 10-05-2016 01:35, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 10/05/2016 2:42 am, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 07:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 3:17 pm, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: The idea that Alice splits further into different branches according to Bob's results only

Re: Non-locality and MWI (literature)

On 10/05/2016 2:22 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 May 2016, at 15:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 10:45 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 May 2016, at 04:12, Bruce Kellett wrote: This is the case for the discussion in section 9.1.2 of the paper by Brown and Timpson. Their equation (9)

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 10/05/2016 2:42 am, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 07:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 3:17 pm, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: The idea that Alice splits further into different branches according to Bob's results only after their respective light cones overlap

Re: Bektashi Alevi

Bruno wrote: *"If you agree that "2+2=4" cannot be corrupted ..."* only, if you deny the existence of 'random' (in the physical world, including math, of course). Otherwise 2 + 3715(?) may be 4 etc. and your math became illusoric. Since we agree (you and me at least,* agnostics*) in an

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 5/9/2016 9:26 AM, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 07:37, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/8/2016 10:17 PM, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 2:58 am, smitra wrote: On 08-05-2016 01:52, Bruce Kellett wrote: The set-up of the experiment belies the second part of

R: Re: R: Re: Non-locality and MWI

Messaggio originale Da: Brent Meeker Data: 09/05/2016 18.50 A: Ogg: Re: R: Re: Non-locality and MWI On 5/9/2016 12:52 AM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: Saibal Mitra:

Re: R: Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 09-05-2016 09:52, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: Saibal Mitra: And this is the core of the disagreement, you say that the results are already there, but in the MWI this is false. In the MWI the cat is not either dead or alive before you open the box, the superposition has become

Re: R: Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 5/9/2016 12:52 AM, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: Saibal Mitra: And this is the core of the disagreement, you say that the results are already there, but in the MWI this is false. In the MWI the cat is not either dead or alive before you open the box, the superposition has become

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 09-05-2016 07:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 3:17 pm, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: The idea that Alice splits further into different branches according to Bob's results only after their respective light cones overlap is an interpretive gloss on the

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 09-05-2016 07:37, Brent Meeker wrote: On 5/8/2016 10:17 PM, smitra wrote: On 09-05-2016 03:40, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 2:58 am, smitra wrote: On 08-05-2016 01:52, Bruce Kellett wrote: The set-up of the experiment belies the second part of your comment. The information about

Re: Non-locality and MWI (literature)

On 09 May 2016, at 15:46, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 10:45 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 May 2016, at 04:12, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 1:39 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Thanks Scerir. Very interesting. On 08 May 2016, at 09:58, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote:

Re: Non-locality and MWI (literature)

On 9/05/2016 10:45 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 09 May 2016, at 04:12, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 1:39 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Thanks Scerir. Very interesting. On 08 May 2016, at 09:58, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: https://arxiv.org/abs/1501.03521 'Bell on Bell's theorem:

Re: Bektashi Alevi

On 08 May 2016, at 23:48, Samiya Illias wrote: On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 23 Apr 2016, at 05:30, Samiya Illias wrote: This email list has been pondering, discussing and debating machine theology, the mind-body problem, 1P, 3P, and so

Re: Non-locality and MWI (literature)

On 09 May 2016, at 04:12, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 9/05/2016 1:39 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: Thanks Scerir. Very interesting. On 08 May 2016, at 09:58, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote: https://arxiv.org/abs/1501.03521 'Bell on Bell's theorem: The changing face of nonlocality' Authors:

Re: Non-locality and MWI

Oops, Sorry Bruce, that following mail might have been resent a second tie by error. May be you can check, my server seems to have a queer behavior. Bruno On 09 May 2016, at 14:14, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 30 Apr 2016, at 02:32, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 29/04/2016 9:09 pm, Bruno Marchal

Re: Non-locality and MWI

On 30 Apr 2016, at 02:32, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 29/04/2016 9:09 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 Apr 2016, at 03:33, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 27/04/2016 4:57 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 27 Apr 2016, at 06:49, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 27/04/2016 1:51 pm, Brent Meeker wrote: That's pretty much

R: Re: Non-locality and MWI

Saibal Mitra: > And this is the core of the disagreement, you say that the results are > already there, but in the MWI this is false. In the MWI the cat is not > either dead or alive before you open the box, the superposition has > become entangled with the environment, but both branches are