On 1 June 2015 at 14:12, Samiya Illias wrote:
> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 4:01 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 31 May 2015 at 03:42, Samiya Illias wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Which is why I suggest that those who understand science should evaluate
>>> the Quranic sta
On 1 June 2015 at 12:32, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On 1 June 2015 at 06:37, John Mikes wrote:
> > LizR:
> > I find it "funny" if so many thinking minds on this list (and around the
> > world?) take your
> >
> > "...You are simply assu
On 1 June 2015 at 04:38, John Clark wrote:
> A Turing Machine does assume matter that obeys the laws of physics
>
> It assumes that an infinite tape is available. Which physical laws allow
that?
A Turing Machine is actually an *algorithm* - it isn't a mechanical device,
although one could make a
On 1 June 2015 at 02:36, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> John Pertwee or Tom Baker to the rescue! Behold, The Master has initiated
> Time Ram! Roger Delgado at the charge. Did you know Pertwee's son play's
> Alfred the Butler on Gotham? SPECTRE has activ
On 1 June 2015 at 08:37, John Mikes wrote:
> LizR:
> I find it "funny" if so many thinking minds on this list (and around the
> world?) take your
>
> *"...You are simply assuming the truth of what you have so far failed to
> demonstrate." *
>
> serio
PS That "set off volcanoes from a distance as a weapon" idea was used in a
Dr Who story in the 1960s. (Not sure if any of Bond's enemies ever got
around to that one...)
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On 31 May 2015 at 15:47, Kim Jones wrote:
> Anyway, look - screw all this tedious God stuff already. Meanwhile back
> on topic about The Trump of Doom:
>
> http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/weather-wars.html
>
> Wow. Mind you, I suspect that America has been manipulating the climate
for dec
On 31 May 2015 at 03:54, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 , LizR wrote:
>
> > I've heard of "Altered States", but what is this "alert status" business?
>>
>
> That business is just another way of saying "consciousness".
&
On 31 May 2015 at 11:14, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On Sunday, May 31, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
>> God created humans and knows everything about us and within us. I'm sure
>> there will be no injustice done to anybody.
>> The analogies you give are between humans. We do not know our own se
On 31 May 2015 at 03:32, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> Twas brillig
> as slithey toves
> did gyre and gimble in the wabe
> all mimsy
> were the borogroves
> as the ramprats
> outgrabe
>
> I'm not sure why you (mis)quoted this, but from memory the corre
On 31 May 2015 at 03:24, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
> God created humans and knows everything about us and within us. I'm sure
> there will be no injustice done to anybody.
> The analogies you give are between humans. We do not know our own selves:
> subconscious, composition details, thoughts, mind,
On 31 May 2015 at 03:42, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
> Which is why I suggest that those who understand science should evaluate
> the Quranic statements about nature to examine if the author knows what he
> is talking about.
>
> Obviously for this to be a meaningful exercise it should be a double-blin
I've heard of "Altered States", but what is this "alert status" business?
(And why do you think I should remember falling asleep, when short term
memory doesn't operate during sleep?)
On 30 May 2015 at 02:48, John Clark wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 LizR wro
as he tortures you.
On 30 May 2015 at 13:11, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
>
> On 29-May-2015, at 5:41 pm, Stathis Papaioannou
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 30, 2015, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, LizR wrote:
>>
On 30 May 2015 at 07:01, Samiya Illias wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:33 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 29 May 2015 at 16:34, Samiya Illias wrote:
>>
>>> If we do not make the necessary effort, we will end up in the Fire due
>>> to our own negl
On 29 May 2015 at 16:34, Samiya Illias wrote:
> If we do not make the necessary effort, we will end up in the Fire due to
> our own negligence.
>
That is known as "victim blaming". It's the psychology of a sadist - the
same as the rapist's "she was asking for it".
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> substitution level
>
> On 29 May 2015 at 06:14, spudboy100 via Everything
You mean the "yes boss" ? TEFL I think. They were getting far less readable
after SIASL (TMIAHM was OK I seem to remember, but by the 60s he was
getting away from those short snappy stories I grew up on).
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On 29 May 2015 at 06:14, spudboy100 via Everything List <
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> Well simply put, action reaction. There may be a rudimentary level of
> consciousness, a basis, a basement. Food, seek, reproduce, etc. That
> applies to shrooms bacteria insects chipmunks. So an a
On 29 May 2015 at 06:13, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 28 May 2015, at 14:53, LizR wrote:
>
> On 28 May 2015 at 22:03, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
>> LizR wrote:
>>
>>> On 26 May 2015 at 16:59, Bruce Kellett >> <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> w
On 29 May 2015 at 10:52, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> A good summary. I think the argument is even stronger than Chalmers
> claims. Fading qualia would mean consciousness did not exist (which
> apparently not everyone thinks is absurd),
Indeed not. Brent implied it in a recent post (but I can't
On 29 May 2015 at 02:09, Jason Resch wrote:
> To be clear, Chalmers didn't say fading qualia were implied, he said if
> consciousness is not present in an artificial brain that it follows that
> during a neuron-by-neuron replacement a biological brain would eventually
> become an artificial brain
On 29 May 2015 at 09:59, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> A blast from the past. Wasn't it Robert Heinlein who wrote, "one man's
> theology is another man's belly laugh?"
>
> It sounds like him, although I seem to recall he got more religious in his
old a
On 29 May 2015 at 07:26, Samiya Illias wrote:
> Liz,
> The Quran speaks of one single blast which will kill and destroy
> everything, and another which will cause resurrection. When that is to
> occur, only God has knowledge of it. However, we have been informed that it
> is approaching closer an
nge. HAARP. And other things they
> don't ring you up to tell you they are doing. No, they don't announce on
> the evening news that mankind has figured out how to toy with the world's
> weather. Some of it might even be for your good.
>
> Kim
>
>
>
>
On 28 May 2015 at 22:03, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> LizR wrote:
>
>> On 26 May 2015 at 16:59, Bruce Kellett > <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>
>> LizR wrote:
>>
>> On 26 May 2015 at 05:45, John Clark >
>>
On 27 May 2015 at 04:13, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Isn't consciousness a form of intelligence?
>
> I don't know. It's associated with some form of intelligence in every case
I can think of - some rather rudimentary by our standards (and making
assu
On 26 May 2015 at 16:59, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> LizR wrote:
>
>> On 26 May 2015 at 05:45, John Clark > johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Of that I have no opinion because nobody knows what "comp" means,
>> least of all Bruno.
>>
Apparently the Last Trump is being heard around the world...
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/what-is-causing-the-strange-trumpet-sounds-in-the-sky-all-over-the-world
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On 27 May 2015 at 02:07, Pierz wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 1:03:48 PM UTC+10, Liz R wrote:
>
>> On 25 May 2015 at 00:34, Pierz wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:08:30 PM UTC+10, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
I sure did, Telmo. Scroll to the bottom and you shall view
This is cool. Very cool.
http://arstechnica.com/science/2015/05/atomic-telescope-brings-atoms-to-standstill/
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On 26 May 2015 at 10:39, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/25/2015 10:45 AM, John Clark wrote:
>
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 , Pierz wrote:
>
>
>> > Bruno *did* acknowledge that his theory predicts that the laws of
>> physics are invariant across space and time, because they are supposed to
>> arise out of pu
On 26 May 2015 at 05:45, John Clark wrote:
> Of that I have no opinion because nobody knows what "comp" means, least of
> all Bruno.
>
> Comp is the theory that consciousness is the product of Turing-emulable
processes, i.e. that it's a computation. The idea that we may one day
create AIs is base
On 26 May 2015 at 05:45, John Clark wrote:
> On Sat, May 23, 2015 , Pierz wrote:
>
>
>> > Bruno *did* acknowledge that his theory predicts that the laws of
>> physics are invariant across space and time, because they are supposed to
>> arise out of pure arithmetic
>>
>
> We know from pure mathem
On 26 May 2015 at 04:56, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 24 May 2015, at 11:12, LizR wrote:
>
> The stability of natural laws is also the simplest situation, I think?
> (Isn't there something in Russell's TON about this?) Natural laws remain
> stable due to symmetry principle
On 25 May 2015 at 05:50, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/24/2015 2:12 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> The stability of natural laws is also the simplest situation, I think?
>> (Isn't there something in Russell's TON about this?) Natural laws remain
>> stable due to symmetry
On 25 May 2015 at 00:34, Pierz wrote:
>
> On Monday, May 4, 2015 at 9:08:30 PM UTC+10, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> I sure did, Telmo. Scroll to the bottom and you shall view my last,
>> number 26th, the last one. This kind of thing is interesting to me. I tend
>> toward the materialist stuff si
I would say a novel may help make a blueprint, a direction, a precis, but
> not a cosmos itself. "Once upon a time.."
>
>
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Writing a novel is one way.
On 26 May 2015 at 09:13, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> What about such universes or subregions,domains, that sadly, lack a
> conscious observer? What creates or sends the observer, perhaps a jobs
> agency?" Observer needed
Your graph shows the result of arctic sea ice disappearing while antarctic
sea ice has been increasing. These can both be reasonably ascribed to
climate change - less sea ice in the arctic means it's melting, more in the
antarctic means it's coming off the ice cap into the sea because the ice
cap i
On 24 May 2015 at 17:40, Pierz wrote:
>
> I really like this argument, even though I once came up with a (bad)
> attempt to refute it. I wish it received more attention because it does
> cast quite a penetrating light on the issue. What you're suggesting is
> effectively the cache pattern in compu
The stability of natural laws is also the simplest situation, I think?
(Isn't there something in Russell's TON about this?) Natural laws remain
stable due to symmetry principles, which are simpler than anything
asymmetric (although physics contains some asymmetries, of course, like
matter vs antima
I'm always suspicious when someone starts by dissing everyone else in their
field. (It didn't work for "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", after
all...)
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I'm not sure why comp would predict that physical laws are invariant for
all observers. I can see that it would lead to a sort of
super-anthropic-selection effect, but surely all possible observers should
exist somewhere in arithmetic, including ones who observe different physics
(that is compatibl
I should have posted a link to the video. Nothing like as good as the one
you posted, but as I said the end's quite fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1td70yaoS8
On 23 May 2015 at 21:00, LizR wrote:
> Actually it's OK - the food fight at the end's quite fun!
>
> On 23
Actually it's OK - the food fight at the end's quite fun!
On 23 May 2015 at 20:56, LizR wrote:
> Brilliant! Thank you for that. :-)
>
> Although if I was being pedantic, I might point out that Norway's
> Eurovision entry is actually this:
>
> https://en.wik
Brilliant! Thank you for that. :-)
Although if I was being pedantic, I might point out that Norway's
Eurovision entry is actually this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Monster_Like_Me
(Not half as good, at a guess...)
On 23 May 2015 at 13:53, Kim Jones wrote:
>
> Norway's entry in the Eurov
It's sometimes important for animals to be unpredictable in their
interactions with their own species, especially social animals like humans.
(Although even flies have unpredictable behaviour to avoid predators,
especially ones carrying rolled up magazines.)
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I was making a teensy little Leonard Cohen joke. Having to explain jokes
kills them but just so you know...("what everybody knows...")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Knows_(Leonard_Cohen_song)
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http://www.salon.com/2015/05/18/big_oils_astronomical_hand_out_fossil_fuels_receive_5_3_trillion_in_global_subsidies_each_year/
Of course some of these are hidden costs like cleaning up after them, but
even so the G-20 nations give them an estimated $88 billion / year.
Gravy train ahoy!
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On 20 May 2015 at 04:41, John Clark wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2015 Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> Well then let's make this simple, just use your patented way to
>>> make calculations without using matter or energy or any of the laws of
>>> physics and tell me what the factors of 3*2^916773 +1
Yeah, he's good.
I guess everybody knows that...
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11450770&ref=nzh_tw
Antarctica's Larsen B ice-shelf is on course to disintegrate completely
> within the next five years, according to a study by US space agency Nasa.
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I feel a strange desire to quote Roger Waters.
What God wants God gets God help us all
What God wants God gets (repeated)
> The kid in the corner looked at the priest
> And fingered his pale blue Japanese guitar
> The priest said:
> God wants goodness
> God wants light
> God wants mayhem
> God wa
On 17 May 2015 at 06:38, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Here is another out of the box thinker, Telmo, that has published a book
> of course. He is a prof at Stanford University, with a view unlike anything
> I can recall covering this topic. Like Lomb
On 15 May 2015 at 23:52, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:21 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 15 May 2015 at 21:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Mene
On 16 May 2015 at 06:11, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 15 May 2015, at 01:48, Jason Resch wrote:
>
> Are there those rare creatures somewhere in Platonia that see while
> feeling as though they're blind?
>
> No. At the level I think you are, that would be a contradiction with comp.
>
What about "Bli
On 16 May 2015 at 11:35, Colin Hales wrote:
> You've done it again.
> There could be 1000 mathematical abstractions (not simple) that, as a
> depiction of reality, may reveal a process called scientific observation.
>
> Comp *assumes* that the conscious observer is a type of computation.
Original
On 16 May 2015 at 08:07, John Clark wrote:
>
> Enough with the "you confuse" crap! Every post of yours contains a "you
> confuse", put a little variety into your phrases.
>
Pot and kettle, to say the least.
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On 16 May 2015 at 05:28, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> On 14 May 2015, at 23:49, LizR wrote:
> The basic idea is that if you can predict in advance what you will do, you
> can as well change your mind.
>
Yes, that's analogous to the halting problem, I would say. Self-refer
On 18 May 2015 at 06:14, meekerdb wrote:
> At a very low level, yes. It's more conscious than my computer or a
> rock. Maybe less conscious than an amoeba, since the amoeba not only
> understands how to move it also understands food and reproduction.
>
You think amoedas are conscious? Do you h
On 17 May 2015 at 11:44, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 2:48 PM, Bruce Kellett
>> So you think that Darwinian evolution produced intelligent zombies,
>> and then computationalism infused consciousness?
>>
>> No. What I am saying is that consciousn
On 16 May 2015 at 08:56, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/14/2015 7:24 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
>> LizR wrote:
>>
>>> On 15 May 2015 at 06:34, meekerdb >> meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to understand what &quo
On 15 May 2015 at 21:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 3:07 AM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Clouds, especially high clouds have some effect. They reflect visible
>>>> bands bac
On 15 May 2015 at 14:19, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Photons can re-combine? So they are unlike electrons or positrons, which
> like a magnet, repell like charges. Based on your description, Liz, then
> somewhere in the universe, are glowing soft-whi
On 15 May 2015 at 12:52, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> On 14 May 2015 at 09:40, LizR wrote:
> > On 14 May 2015 at 05:46, John Clark wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> The only other meaning of "free will" that I know of that isn't
> gibberish
> >&
Oops - I meant "on" the final outcome, of course - my fingers insist on
reversing the order of letters, and sometimes I don't notice.
On 15 May 2015 at 12:39, LizR wrote:
> On 14 May 2015 at 14:40, Russell Standish wrote:
>
>>
>> The "physical system&quo
On 15 May 2015 at 06:34, meekerdb wrote:
>
> I'm trying to understand what "counterfactual correctness" means in the
> physical thought experiments.
>
You and me both.
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On 14 May 2015 at 17:13, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/13/2015 5:32 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
>
>> But if "not in any universe" is meant in the MWI sense, then
>> counterfactuals are only those outcomes consistent with QM but which don't
>> happen. I think it is only the latter kind of counterfactual
On 14 May 2015 at 14:40, Russell Standish wrote:
>
> The "physical system" refers to all parallel instantiations of an
> object ISTM.
>
> If I refer to a photon travelling through a ZM apparatus (to fix
> things - you know two half silvered mirrors, so the photons are split
> and travel over two
On 15 May 2015 at 10:46, Russell Standish wrote:
> Sure, so we now know the daemon cannot be physical. I'm not sure that
> Laplace thought they had to be physical to make his non-physical
> thought experiments go through though. After all, even though Laplace
> made his famous quip to Napoleon, m
On 15 May 2015 at 02:03, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 14 May 2015, at 03:20, LizR wrote:
>
> On 14 May 2015 at 12:01, Russell Standish wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 01:46:49PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 Russell Standish wrote:
>> >
Now you just need a cool acronym.
:-)
On 15 May 2015 at 09:32, John Mikes wrote:
> Colin: wouldn't it fit to call "TOE" - Theory of Everything WE KNOW
> ABOUT? or: Everything in our reach?
> I mentioned my agnostic views.
> Greetings
> John Mikes
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, colin ha
On 14 May 2015 at 13:36, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Yes, liz. Eliminate oil subsidies unless its for applied science. Aka
> engineering development. Being a brutal libertarian, let it do the
> darwinian two-step, that we all as individuals must do.
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:42 PM, Russell Standish
wrote:
This was always why I found the fading qualia argument unconvincing -
in spite of being a died-in-the-wool functionalist.
Russell - just so you know - the expression is "dyed in the wool". It
refers to the fact that if you dye wool BEF
On 14 May 2015 at 12:01, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 01:46:49PM -0400, John Clark wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 Russell Standish wrote:
> >
> > > Free will is the ability to do something stupid. Nonrational.
> > >
> >
> > OK fine free will is non-rational, in other words
On 14 May 2015 at 06:42, meekerdb wrote:
> An abstract AI can exist in platonia relative to an abstract environment
> in platonia.
>
That's all that comp claims, as far as I can tell.
>
> What I'm interested in is what makes the program/AI conscious. Bruno has
> an answer, i.e. it can do mathem
On 13 May 2015 at 22:15, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 13 May 2015, at 03:52, LizR wrote:
>
> Maudlin attempts to show that counterfactuals don't count, as it were, by
> bolting on vast universes of counterfactual-handling machinery to his
> already unfeasibly large thought expe
On 13 May 2015 at 21:30, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>> Clouds, especially high clouds have some effect. They reflect visible
>> bands back to space and they also absorb and reemit IR. Low clouds tend to
>> increase heat load because they reflect in the day, but they insulate day
>> and night. It's
On 14 May 2015 at 12:32, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:26:17AM +1200, LizR wrote:
> > On 13 May 2015 at 18:20, Russell Standish wrote:
> >
> > > For a robust ontology, counterfactuals are physically instantiated,
> > > therefore the MGA
But oil (for example) is also subsidised. It doesn't pay environmental
costs, for a start.
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Aha, that's more like it. Now I just need something by The Smiths to get me
in the right mood...
On 13 May 2015 at 21:36, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:20 AM, meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 5/12/2015 7:02 PM, LizR wrote:
>>
>>> Brent, t
On 14 May 2015 at 05:46, John Clark wrote:
>
> The only other meaning of "free will" that I know of that isn't gibberish
> is the inability to always know what we will do next before we do it even
> in an unchanging environment, but almost nobody uses that meaning so all
> that remains is the sou
On 13 May 2015 at 18:20, Russell Standish wrote:
> For a robust ontology, counterfactuals are physically instantiated,
> therefore the MGA is invalid.
>
Can you elaborate on this? ISTM that counterfactuals aren't, and indeed
can't, be physically instantiated. (Isn't that what being counterfactua
On 13 May 2015 at 15:03, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> Bruno does make a prediction that can be empirically tested. He predicts
> that consciousness does not supervene on physical brains but on
> computations. The MGA purports to show that the assumption of physical
> supervenience leads to a contradi
On 13 May 2015 at 14:29, Samiya Illias wrote:
> 1) The Quran reminds us that humans have been made Incharge of Earth and
> hence are responsible for the welfare of the Earth and all in it
> 2) The Quran also tells us that we will be held accountable for all that
> we've been gifted with, hence th
On 13 May 2015 at 14:25, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> Careful Brent! You are introducing a particular magic into the mix --
> causality in your case. For Bruno, the magic is a particular type of
> computation. Both of these 'escapes' are essentially dualist explanations
> of consciousness.
I think
;
> On 04 May 2015, at 10:23, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:08 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> On 4 May 2015 at 06:45, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even
>>&g
On 12 May 2015 at 21:53, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Yes, and there's geophysical phenomena to include-in, like the recently
> discovered active volcano's under antarctic ice. Melt's the underside of
> the ice shelf, while the top side has expanded.
Maudlin attempts to show that counterfactuals don't count, as it were, by
bolting on vast universes of counterfactual-handling machinery to his
already unfeasibly large thought experiment. The MWI does the same sort of
thing for free, so if we assume it's the correct interpretation of QM we
get a s
>
>
> On 12-May-2015, at 6:28 pm, LizR wrote:
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> Does God give any suggestions as to what we should do?
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> Regarding the heating of the seas? No, it's already decreed. This chapter
> is making the point that this Quran is indeed a message, and reckoning is
Does God give any suggestions as to what we should do?
On 12 May 2015 at 23:28, Samiya Illias wrote:
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> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:18 PM, LizR wrote:
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>> On 11 May 2015 at 17:39, Samiya Illias wrote:
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>>> European Space Agency (ESA) has this to re
ccurred and did change
> the climate. Moreover, what are you advocating for a fix for this dilemma?
> This is where X crosses Y.
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> -Original Message-
> From: LizR
> To: everything-list
> Sent: Tue, May 12, 2015 12:16 am
> Subject: Re: "Physicist
On 12 May 2015 at 22:04, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Well your eyes must be very old indeed, because methane releases go back
> at least 55 million years, when the great warming occurred and did change
> the climate.
Yes, I know. I've seen some of
On 12 May 2015 at 22:00, spudboy100 via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Well, the researchers "pretended" that they knew, back then and are still
> advocating regulations rather then new tech, The validity of a science is
> it's ability to predict. I myself, advocate,
On 12 May 2015 at 17:36, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 04:28:16PM +1200, LizR wrote:
> > On 12 May 2015 at 15:18, Russell Standish wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 03:06:49PM +1200, LizR wrote:
> > > > On 12 May 2015
On 12 May 2015 at 15:18, Russell Standish wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 03:06:49PM +1200, LizR wrote:
> > On 12 May 2015 at 14:14, Russell Standish wrote:
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> > >
> > > Why would we assume that it wouldn't make a difference? That has never
> >
On 11 May 2015 at 17:39, Samiya Illias wrote:
> European Space Agency (ESA) has this to report about Glacial Melt:
> http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Observing_the_Earth/GOCE/GOCE_reveals_gravity_dip_from_ice_loss
>
> What does this mean for Global Warming?
>
Well, it means it's happening, it's
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