Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/26/2010 12:15 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: If you can find a Putnam-mapping that can extracts a representation of a conscious entity, you can also find a mapping that extracts a representation of an environment to go with it. Sure

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: >> If you can find a Putnam-mapping that can extracts a representation of >> a conscious entity, you can also find a mapping that extracts a >> representation of an environment to go with it. >> > > Sure - but it's not our environment. Is our e

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/25/2010 11:59 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: If you expose a deterministic system to a set of inputs that represent a particular environment, the system will react in the one and only way it can to

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: > The text is well done. Thanks. A question. What would be the consequence of > the nomologicalism for a person that would like to earn some more money? > Well, let us not consider the case when one successfully sells the text > about nomologi

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-26 Thread Rex Allen
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > The word 'universe" does not refer to anything except the observable > experiential first person plural (sharable among collection of programs) > that arithmetic places on us as a consequence of addition and > multiplication. I agree that fi

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-25 Thread Rex Allen
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: > On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: >> If you expose a deterministic system to a set of inputs that represent >> a particular environment, the system will react in the one and only >> way it can to that set of inputs. >> > > And if that rea

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-25 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
The text is well done. Thanks. A question. What would be the consequence of the nomologicalism for a person that would like to earn some more money? Well, let us not consider the case when one successfully sells the text about nomologicalism. Evgenii on 21.09.2010 19:10 Rex Allen said the fo

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Sep 2010, at 20:21, Brent Meeker wrote: On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Sep 2010, at 05:26, Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of charge, mass, spin, or color? it's a dist

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread Brent Meeker
On 9/23/2010 8:26 PM, Rex Allen wrote: On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z wrote: On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of charge, mass, spin, or color?

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-24 Thread 1Z
On 24 Sep, 04:26, Rex Allen wrote: > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z wrote: > > On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: > >> I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any > >> sense of that.  In what sense is it like the properties of charge, > >> mass, spin, or color? > >

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-23 Thread Rex Allen
On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:12 PM, 1Z wrote: > On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: >> I guess I'd have to hear your definition of "property" to make any >> sense of that. In what sense is it like the properties of charge, >> mass, spin, or color? > > it's a distinguishing characteristic > that is

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-23 Thread 1Z
On 22 Sep, 17:20, Rex Allen wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, 1Z wrote: > > On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen wrote: > >> What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with > >> deterministic laws? > > >> Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some > >> proper

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-22 Thread Rex Allen
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:14 AM, 1Z wrote: > On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen wrote: >> What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with >> deterministic laws? >> >> Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some >> property called "intelligence", but rather is an inevit

Re: Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-22 Thread 1Z
On 21 Sep, 18:10, Rex Allen wrote: > What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with > deterministic laws? > > Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some > property called "intelligence", but rather is an inevitable outcome of > the universe's initial conditio

Intelligence and Nomologicalism

2010-09-21 Thread Rex Allen
What is the significance of intelligence in a universe with deterministic laws? Your performance on any IQ test is not due to your possessing some property called "intelligence", but rather is an inevitable outcome of the universe's initial conditions and governing causal laws. The questions you