Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Jan 2009, at 02:26, Kim Jones wrote: On 10/01/2009, at 5:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I admire too. Kim is courageous. Well, for the tenacity we will see :) Gee thanks Doctor! I'll try not disappoint you. At the moment I am devoting an egregious amount of time to searching for

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-10 Thread John Mikes
Brent, there are misunderstood phenomena and epistemologically underdeveloped explanations over the past 10,000 years - plus conclusion (upon conlusions)^n - quantizations with and without zero (14th c. AD) to develop in our conventional scientific view the figment Bruno puts into - called The

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi John, I decided so many times not to reflect to the esoteric sci-fi assumptions (thought experiments?) on this list - about situations beyond common sense, their use as templates for consequences. It is as you wish, but it is my way to question the humans, through UDA. Then the

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread John Mikes
Brent wrote: ...But the EPR experiments show that this can only hold if the influence of the rest of the world is non-local (i.e. faster than light) and hence inconsistent with relativity... EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a point. How can one use such artifact as

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Günther Greindl
John, Brent, John said: EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a point. How can one use such artifact as 'evidence' that shows...? Aspect Et Al tested it ages ago, see for instance here: http://www-ece.rice.edu/~kono/ELEC565/Aspect_Nature.pdf Brent said: But the EPR

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Kim Jones
On 10/01/2009, at 5:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: I admire too. Kim is courageous. Well, for the tenacity we will see :) Gee thanks Doctor! I'll try not disappoint you. At the moment I am devoting an egregious amount of time to searching for employment as my ability to sit and cogitate

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-09 Thread Brent Meeker
John Mikes wrote: Brent wrote: ...But the EPR experiments show that this can only hold if the influence of the rest of the world is non-local (i.e. faster than light) and hence inconsistent with relativity... EPR is a thought-experiment, constructed (designed) to make a point. How

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-08 Thread John Mikes
Dear Bruno, I decided so many times not to reflect to the esoteric sci-fi assumptions (thought experiments?) on this list - about situations beyond common sense, their use as templates for consequences. Now, however, I can't control my 'mouse' - in random and probabilistics. * Bruno quotes in

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-08 Thread Brent Meeker
John Mikes wrote: Dear Bruno, I decided so many times not to reflect to the esoteric sci-fi assumptions (thought experiments?) on this list - about situations beyond common sense, their use as templates for consequences. Now, however, I can't control my 'mouse' - in random and

Re: Kim 2.4 - 2.5

2009-01-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 03 Jan 2009, at 12:59, Kim Jones wrote: Bruno, In this step, one of me experiences (or actually does not experience) the delay prior to reconstitution. In Step 2, it was proven to me that I cannot know that any extra time (other than the 4 minutes necessary transmission interval) has