Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 07:30:30AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Danny, > > The depressed people are the sane ones. My post is merely > 'existential angst' caused by knowledge of the world and myself as I > really am.With knowledge comes unhappiness and happiness is the > happiness of ign

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread Tom Caylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > McIntyre, standing well back, surveyed the darkness with a quizzical > curl to his lip. "You need only enter. All your magic, all your > recollections of the green realm will depart. You will be no wiser > than the next man you meet. And with your knowledge will go

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread David Nyman
On Oct 26, 8:30 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ever read the short story of 'Green Magic'? No I hadn't, but thanks for the link, marc - it's a neat little tale, delightfully told. I'm tempted to try a little more of Jack Vance after this - any suggestions? David On Oct 26, 8:30 am, [EMAIL PRO

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-26 Thread marc . geddes
Danny, The depressed people are the sane ones. My post is merely 'existential angst' caused by knowledge of the world and myself as I really am.With knowledge comes unhappiness and happiness is the happiness of ignorance. Ever read the short story of 'Green Magic'? That story is available on-l

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 20-oct.-07, à 18:06, David Nyman a écrit : > > On Oct 19, 2:26 pm, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> David, do you mind if I send next week your solution (which were >> correct) of the exercises I gave online once to the list? I am sure >> it could help some other. All that is

RE: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-22 Thread Danny Mayes
List Subject: Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI On Oct 14, 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Take care, trust yourself and "kill all the "SAI"" on the road, to > paraphrase a well known Buddhist idea. Either you are

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-20 Thread David Nyman
On Oct 19, 2:26 pm, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David, do you mind if I send next week your solution (which were > correct) of the exercises I gave online once to the list? I am sure > it could help some other. All that is needed to get Church's thesis > eventually right. Recall

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 17-oct.-07, à 08:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > > > On Oct 16, 11:37 pm, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >>> If it is ''a'-rtificial' I question the 'natural one' (following >>> Bruno's fear of the (natural?) 'super stupidity'.) Yet I don't think >>> Marc wants to let hims

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-16 Thread marc . geddes
On Oct 16, 11:37 pm, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If it is ''a'-rtificial' I question the 'natural one' (following > > Bruno's fear of the (natural?) 'super stupidity'.) Yet I don't think > > Marc wants to let himself denature into an artifact. > > Not necessarily, but look a

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-16 Thread John Mikes
essage - > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Everything List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 07:17 AM > Subject: Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 14, 3:39 am, Br

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 16-oct.-07, à 12:37, I said, in a post to John Mikes, > Agreed. It was just a parabola for driving attention against any use > of authoritative argument in the field of fundamentals. > Ah! But the lobian machine too can be shown allergic to such argument. > It's a universal dissident.

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 15-oct.-07, à 20:51, John Mikes a écrit : > Marc: excellent. > Even Statis responded - although I cannot understand why he wrote > "they" and not "us"? > My problem is the "A" pertinent to SAI: s  u  p  e  r  i  n  t  e  l  > l  i  g  e  n  c  e  dores not contain an "A".  Well seen! >

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-15 Thread Saibal Mitra
TED]> To: "Everything List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 07:17 AM Subject: Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI > > > > On Oct 14, 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Take care, trust

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-15 Thread John Mikes
Marc: excellent. Even Statis responded - although I cannot understand why he wrote "they" and not "us"? My problem is the "A" pertinent to SAI: s u p e r i n t e l l i g e n c e dores not contain an "A". If it is ''a'-rtificial' I question the 'natural one' (following Bruno's fear

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 15-oct.-07, à 07:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > > > On Oct 14, 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Take care, trust yourself and "kill all the "SAI"" on the road, to >> paraphrase a well known Buddhist idea. Either you are sufficiently >> clever to understand the SA

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-15 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On 15/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Heh. Bruno, I continue to analyse my current (human) condition to try > to find a way out of this mess (I'm not a happy bloke). Still > considering many possibilities. Given the possibility that super- > intelligences do already (or

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-14 Thread marc . geddes
On Oct 14, 3:39 am, Bruno Marchal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Take care, trust yourself and "kill all the "SAI"" on the road, to > paraphrase a well known Buddhist idea. Either you are sufficiently > clever to understand the SAI arguments, showing you are already an SAI > yourself, and your

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-14 Thread Jason Resch
On 10/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 12th October, 2007 > > Marc Geddes > Auckland > New Zealand > > --- > > This is Marc Geddes , > > I am publically requesting to form a social contract with SAI (Super > Intelligence).I am aware of the existence of SAI and SAI-space

Re: Request to form 'Social Contract' with SAI

2007-10-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
Le 13-oct.-07, à 07:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > 12th October, 2007 > > Marc Geddes > Auckland > New Zealand > > --- > > This is Marc Geddes , > > I am publically requesting to form a social contract with SAI (Super > Intelligence).I am aware of the existence of SAI and SAI-space an