Re: Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-14 Thread Roger
:22:55 Subject: Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ? On 8/11/2012 6:00 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb No, the agent is not part of the material world, it is nonmaterial. It has no extension and so is outside of spacetime. Mind itself is such (as Descartes

Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-14 Thread meekerdb
: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ? On 8/11/2012 6:00 AM, Roger wrote: Hi meekerdb No, the agent is not part of the material world, it is nonmaterial. It has no extension and so is outside of spacetime. Mind itself is such (as Descartes observed

Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-12 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Aug 2012, at 14:53, Roger wrote: Hi Russell Standish But Dennet has no agent to react to all of those signals. To perceive. To judge. To cause action. To do those, an agent has to be unified and singular -- a point of focus-- and there's no propect for such in current neuroscience/

Re: Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-11 Thread Roger
: everything-list Time: 2012-08-10, 15:16:55 Subject: Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ? On 8/10/2012 5:53 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Russell Standish But Dennet has no agent to react to all of those signals. To perceive. To judge. To cause action. If he had an agent he

Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-11 Thread meekerdb
- *From:* meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net *Receiver:* everything-list mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com *Time:* 2012-08-10, 15:16:55 *Subject:* Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ? On 8/10/2012 5:53 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Russell Standish

Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-10 Thread Roger
Hi Russell Standish But Dennet has no agent to react to all of those signals. To perceive. To judge. To cause action. To do those, an agent has to be unified and singular -- a point of focus-- and there's no propect for such in current neuroscience/neurophilosophy. Hence I follow Leibniz, even

Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-10 Thread meekerdb
On 8/10/2012 5:53 AM, Roger wrote: Hi Russell Standish But Dennet has no agent to react to all of those signals. To perceive. To judge. To cause action. If he had an agent he would have failed to explain anything - he would have just pushed the problem off into the agent. To do those, an

Re: Where's the agent ? Who or what does stuff and is aware of stuff ?

2012-08-10 Thread Stephen P. King
Hi Roger, I have noticed and read your posts. Might you write some remarks about Leibniz' concept of pre-established harmony? On 8/10/2012 8:53 AM, Roger wrote: Hence I follow Leibniz, even though he's difficult and some say contradictory. That agent or soul or self you have is your