Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-06 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, June 6, 2019 at 3:25:08 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 6 Jun 2019, at 02:47, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-06 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 6 Jun 2019, at 02:47, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark > wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > > wrote: >> >> >> you said atheism is just a slight

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-05 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 9:30:31 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark > > wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and >>> believe my saying Aristotle was

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-05 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 10:30 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: *>>>That would happen in circular model of time, like in Gödel GR >>> universe.* >> >> >> >>But the Gödel GR universe is not the one I live in, my universe does >> not rotate. > > > *>How do you know that? * > The short answer is by looking

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Jun 2019, at 18:10, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > Unlike Philip Thrift and Penrose, you seems to assume both materialism and > > mechanism, > > Well according to you "I have defined mechanism by the idea

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 4 Jun 2019, at 17:42, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and believe my > >> saying Aristotle was the worst physicist who ever lived means I have > >>

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-04 Thread Philip Thrift
On Tuesday, June 4, 2019 at 9:55:51 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 3 Jun 2019, at 14:24, John Clark > > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:18 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > *you have espoused the theology of Aristotle, which is based on the act >> of faith* >> > > Congratulations,

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-04 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: *> Unlike Philip Thrift and Penrose, you seems to assume both materialism > and mechanism,* > Well according to you "I have defined mechanism by the idea that we can survive with a digital (universal) machine at the place of the brain", so by

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-04 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 10:55 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> you said atheism is just a slight variation of Christianity and >> believe my saying Aristotle was the worst physicist who ever lived means I >> have embraced Aristotle's ideas as an act of faith. > > > *> The physics is wrong, which is

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-04 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 14:24, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:18 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > you have espoused the theology of Aristotle, which is based on the act of > > faith > > Congratulations, you have now repeated that exact same schoolyard

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-03 Thread John Clark
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 5:18 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > *you have espoused the theology of Aristotle, which is based on the act > of faith* > Congratulations, you have now repeated that exact same schoolyard insult (6.02*10^23) *+1* times, you've broken through the mole barrier! > >

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 3 Jun 2019, at 03:27, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > As a minor of mine in college was philosophy I have read some of these > ancient texts. I have even read Aristotle's Physics, which is all wrong > really. So of what use are these texts, or really philosophy in general? It > is

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-03 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 2 Jun 2019, at 17:02, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 8:18 AM Bruno Marchal > wrote: > > > The fact that you compare Plotinus ir Proclus to a Caveman shows that you > > have not even try to read them > > Well of course I haven't read them! Unless

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-03 Thread Philip Thrift
On Sunday, June 2, 2019 at 7:17:59 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > > It is only with the advent of Quantum Mechanics that physicists begin to > grasp the problem of relating first person description and third person > theory. Ot out Everett’s wording, the importance of the difference

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
As a minor of mine in college was philosophy I have read some of these ancient texts. I have even read Aristotle's *Physics*, which is all wrong really. So of what use are these texts, or really philosophy in general? It is interesting to see how these ancient thinkers were groping in the dark.

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-02 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 8:18 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: > The fact that you compare Plotinus ir Proclus to a Caveman shows that you > have not even try to read them Well of course I haven't read them! Unless your field of study is ancient literature and primitive cultures only a fool would take

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 2 Jun 2019, at 13:43, John Clark wrote: > > Bruno Marchal Wrote: > > >> I see little point in reading a book written by someone who knows even > >> less about how the world really works than I do. Life is too short to read > >> every book ever written so one must use judgement and be

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-06-02 Thread John Clark
Bruno Marchal Wrote: > >> I see little point in reading a book written by someone who knows even >> less about how the world really works than I do. Life is too short to read >> every book ever written so one must use judgement and be selective. > > *> You confirme that you criticise what you

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-05-31 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 6:29 AM Bruno Marchal wrote: >> And when they talk about THE ONE in deep stentorious tones they mean a >> grey amorphous blob that doesn't have the smallest speck of intelligence or >> consciousness that did something very important that they can't specify. >> They give

Re: BLOBS [was: Allah: the One and Only Deity]

2019-05-31 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 30 May 2019, at 14:35, John Clark wrote: > > Bruno Marchal Wrote: > > > I can conclude with considerable confidence that the neoplatonist are as > > dumb as dog shit for thinking they have made a great philosophical > > discovery by abandoning the idea of God but not the ASCII