Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-30 Thread John Mikes
Bruno: thanks for the TITLE of your post including the *" N O "* . John Mikes (*Subject:* Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.) ) On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 22 Dec 2012, at 12:16, Roger Clough wrote: > > Hi Bru

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-27 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 26 Dec 2012, at 19:26, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> information is not abstract, it's physical and is deeply involved with both energy and entropy. > You confuse some notion of physical information with the mathematical notion(s). I a

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-26 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> information is not abstract, it's physical and is deeply involved with >> both energy and entropy. >> > > > You confuse some notion of physical information with the mathematical > notion(s). > I am not confused and it is a fact that thinki

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-26 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > Why do the natural numbers exist? > A better question is do the natural numbers need a reason to exist? I don't know the answer to that but my hunch is no. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goo

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
e end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-21, 13:25:36 Subject: Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No. On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:01, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my p

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 22 Dec 2012, at 17:05, Telmo Menezes wrote: Hi Bruno, On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything in the observable universe, probabl

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
2/2012 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-21, 13:25:36 Subject: Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No. On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:0

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-22 Thread Telmo Menezes
Hi Bruno, > On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > > > The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, >> > > Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything > in the observable universe, probably not even points in space. > > > Perhaps,

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 21 Dec 2012, at 22:17, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything in the observable universe, probably not even poi

Re: Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-22 Thread Roger Clough
rchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-12-21, 13:25:36 Subject: Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No. On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:01, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to

Re: Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-22 Thread Roger Clough
physical brain possibly store our memories ? No. On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:01, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to give it meaning. The information needs a universal machine to interpret it. Uni

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-21 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > The infinite set of natural numbers is not stored on anything, > Which causes no problem because there is not a infinite number of anything in the observable universe, probably not even points in space. > no information can be stand alone,

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-21 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 20 Dec 2012, at 19:01, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to give it meaning. The information needs a universal machine to interpret it. Universal machines needs also a universal machine to be th

Re: Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-20 Thread Stephen P. King
On 12/20/2012 1:01 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to give it meaning. But that context can not be stored alone, it in turn must have context. And so forth. Thus one bit of information cannot simpl

Can the physical brain possibly store our memories ? No.

2012-12-20 Thread Roger Clough
Hi A simpler way to make my point is the axiom that no information can be stand alone, it must have context to give it meaning. But that context can not be stored alone, it in turn must have context. And so forth. Thus one bit of information cannot simply be physically stored, it would extend to