On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 7:22 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:

>> information is not abstract, it's physical and is deeply involved with
>> both energy and entropy.
> > You confuse some notion of physical information with the mathematical
> notion(s).

I am not confused and it is a fact that thinking of information as
something physical has over the last century proven itself to be remarkably
fertile and has led to the discovery of new knowledge, while thinking of
information as ethereal was found to be sterile and has led to nowhere and

  John K Clark

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