Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-27 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 18, 2021 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-6 use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: > Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > > There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are > > sequences that are in effect codes. > > Yes, this is exactly the point by the prize. The

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-27 Thread smitra
: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million That's an interesting paper! Note that the theoretical physicist Paul Davies is the one who took the initiative to set up this prize and he is strong skeptic against all current approaches in prebiotic chemistry. I've read the work of his research group (Paul Davies

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
, God? (you know He doesn't like to be called that! -BG2) Unanswerables -Original Message- From: Evgenii Rudnyi To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, Jan 19, 2021 12:01 pm Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million I do not know if you have seen this paper: Molecular

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Ah! Much thanks. -Original Message- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million Read Nick Lane's book, "The Vital Question"  and  listen to his address to

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread Telmo Menezes
event appears almost impossible to happen by chance, but in very large timescales it's not so unlikely anymore. > -Original Message- > From: smitra > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 12:32 am > Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 12:32 am Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million That's an interesting paper! Note that the theoretical physicist Paul Davies is the one who took the initiative to set up this prize and he is strong skeptic against all current

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
? This is worse than nuclear fusion's time-lag, or Waiting for Godot.  -Original Message- From: smitra To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2021 12:32 am Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million That's an interesting paper! Note that the theoretical physicist Paul Davies

RE: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-20 Thread Philip Benjamin
-Original Message- : everything-list@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Evgenii Rudnyi Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million I do not know if you have seen this paper: Molecular Codes in Biological and Chemical Reaction Networks https://na01

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-19 Thread smitra
That's an interesting paper! Note that the theoretical physicist Paul Davies is the one who took the initiative to set up this prize and he is strong skeptic against all current approaches in prebiotic chemistry. I've read the work of his research group (Paul Davies and Sara Walker), their

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-19 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I do not know if you have seen this paper: Molecular Codes in Biological and Chemical Reaction Networks https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0054694 They claim that in random chemical networks one can find some semantic: "High semantic capacity was found in the

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-19 Thread smitra
On 19-01-2021 08:38, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 1/18/2021 11:27 PM, smitra wrote: On 19-01-2021 05:44, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 1/18/2021 3:58 PM, smitra wrote: On 18-01-2021 18:03, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell:

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-18 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/18/2021 11:27 PM, smitra wrote: On 19-01-2021 05:44, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 1/18/2021 3:58 PM, smitra wrote: On 18-01-2021 18:03, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: There are molecules that already do this. DNA and

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-18 Thread smitra
On 19-01-2021 05:44, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 1/18/2021 3:58 PM, smitra wrote: On 18-01-2021 18:03, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are sequences that are in effect codes.

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-18 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 1/18/2021 3:58 PM, smitra wrote: On 18-01-2021 18:03, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are sequences that are in effect codes. Yes, this is exactly the point by the prize. The question

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-18 Thread smitra
On 18-01-2021 18:03, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are sequences that are in effect codes. Yes, this is exactly the point by the prize. The question is to show how something like this could

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-18 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
Am 18.01.2021 um 01:01 schrieb Lawrence Crowell: There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are sequences that are in effect codes. Yes, this is exactly the point by the prize. The question is to show how something like this could happen spontaneously. Evgeny LC On

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I read science research every single day. The researchers involved are, ever-brilliant, as to be expected. But, I am always haunted by the words of Princeton  physicist Gerry O'Neil, where he said, "scientists tend to overestimate the impact of breakthroughs, and underestimate the impact of

Re: Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-17 Thread Lawrence Crowell
There are molecules that already do this. DNA and polypeptides are sequences that are in effect codes. LC On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 12:28:18 PM UTC-6 use...@rudnyi.ru wrote: > "How do you get from chemicals to code? How do you get a code without > designing one?" > > "What You Must Do to

Evolution 2.0 Prize - $10 million

2021-01-04 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
"How do you get from chemicals to code? How do you get a code without designing one?" "What You Must Do to Win The Prize You must arrange for a digital communication system to emerge or self-evolve without "cheating." The diagram below describes the system. Without explicitly designing the