Re: Fermi paradox

2021-05-11 Thread Dylan Distasio
+1. On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 9:49 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > On the physics of a galaxy that possesses technologically driven life, I > am no longer optimistic in this. In any case we have other fish to fry, > namely the possibility of a

Re: Fermi paradox

2021-05-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
er the next 66 years unraveled and collapsed. Even deeper though, this may suggest something far more deeply flawed about the entire human species and our prospects. Most interested in space and astronomy are familiar with Enrico Fermi’s question “Where are they?” concerning intelligent life. This

Re: Fermi paradox

2021-05-11 Thread smitra
something far more deeply flawed about the entire human species and our prospects. Most interested in space and astronomy are familiar with Enrico Fermi’s question “Where are they?” concerning intelligent life. This so-called Fermi paradox poses the Copernican Principle, that any region of th

Re: Fermi paradox

2021-05-10 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
:41 pm Subject: Fermi paradox On January 6, 2021, a disorganized mob of Trump supporters batter-rammed their way into the Capital building of the United States and forced Congress to flee. Those supporting this action, and there are plenty still out there, saw this as the next “Spirit of 1776

Re: Fermi paradox

2021-05-10 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/10/2021 10:41 AM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: Most interested in space and astronomy are familiar with Enrico Fermi’s question “Where are they?” concerning intelligent life. This so-called Fermi paradox poses the Copernican Principle, that any region of the universe is not unique and so

Fermi paradox

2021-05-10 Thread Lawrence Crowell
deeply flawed about the entire human species and our prospects. Most interested in space and astronomy are familiar with Enrico Fermi’s question “Where are they?” concerning intelligent life. This so-called Fermi paradox poses the Copernican Principle, that any region of the universe

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-09 Thread ronaldheld
Short of the Prime Directive, I believe we are the first in this section of the Milky Way. Ronald On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 10:03:21 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > Galactic clusters are the largest structures in the universe held together > by gravity and the Ophiuchus Supercluster

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-08 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
pm Subject: Re: The Fermi Paradox On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 12:30 PM Lawrence Crowell wrote: after the so called Hadean period of mass bombardment life emerged within a few 100 million years. Given that time periods tend to telescope the early you go in geological history this is fairly quick

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
ey planets, and monkey planets must far > outnumber planets with beings who make radio telescopes. I think the most > obvious explanation for the Fermi Paradox is probably the correct one, > we're the first, after all somebody has to be. > > John K Clark > Or we are extremely rare

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-07 Thread John Clark
explanation for the Fermi Paradox is probably the correct one, we're the first, after all somebody has to be. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Saturday, March 7, 2020 at 10:51:07 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:54 AM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > > The occurrence of life on Earth in such a rapid time does pose a >> possibility for a fairly rapid occurrence, at least on a geological time >> scale. for life.

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-07 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 7:54 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > The occurrence of life on Earth in such a rapid time does pose a > possibility for a fairly rapid occurrence, at least on a geological time > scale. for life. Life needs water and liquid water has

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-07 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 7:39:33 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 3/6/2020 3:31 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 5:28:31 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 9:03:21 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> Galactic clusters are the

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-06 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 3/6/2020 3:31 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 5:28:31 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 9:03:21 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: Galactic clusters are the largest structures in the universe held together by gravity and the

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-06 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 5:28:31 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 9:03:21 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> Galactic clusters are the largest structures in the universe held >> together by gravity and the Ophiuchus Supercluster contains 4021 known >> galaxies,

Re: The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-06 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Friday, March 6, 2020 at 9:03:21 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > Galactic clusters are the largest structures in the universe held together > by gravity and the Ophiuchus Supercluster contains 4021 known galaxies, > it's likely none of them contain life, much less intelligent life. >

The Fermi Paradox

2020-03-06 Thread John Clark
Galactic clusters are the largest structures in the universe held together by gravity and the Ophiuchus Supercluster contains 4021 known galaxies, it's likely none of them contain life, much less intelligent life. Telescopes have seen evidence that the largest galaxy in the center of the cluster

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 02:06:23PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 3:03:11 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG > > > > No -

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 3:03:11 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG > > No - it came across as obtuse. If it was meant to be humour, it backfired. > Be honest. Even if

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/7/2018 1:16 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above my desk.  It read:  THERE IS NO "THEY". The meaning being "no alien visitations"?  And you know that how? Woman's intuition?  AG Meaning that whatever "they" you had

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:52:00PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > Can't you appreciate the humor? AG No - it came across as obtuse. If it was meant to be humour, it backfired. -- Dr Russell Standish

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:44:05 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:16:29PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 07, 2018 at 01:16:29PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > When I was a Branch Head there was a sign on the wall above my desk. It > > read: THERE IS NO "THEY". > > > > The meaning being "no alien

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 9:02:32 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-07 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:49:20 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-06 Thread David Nyman
On 4 Jan 2018 20:16, "Lawrence Crowell" wrote: On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:44:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 1:44:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:11:28 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by refusing to view a short video, >> you have the mistaken impression that those

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 8:26:33 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Insofar as you proceed from ignorance by refusing to view a short video, > you have the mistaken impression that those witnesses find some religious > solace in their belief of an alien visitation. Anyway, who

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread agrayson2000
On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 5:20:32 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:06:05 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell <

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-04 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 5:02 AM, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wednesday, January

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 7:49 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:34:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> That program has been revealed to be

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 6:00 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from Nevada. At the request of

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 4:45:21 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 10:00 AM, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >>> ​>> ​ >>> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:02:25 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell < >> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> ​> ​ >>> We may in fact be little more

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 3:43:14 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from >> Nevada. At the request of Bigelow, who is advancing the idea of big >> inflated habitable

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 6:50:39 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 2:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > Finding absolutely no life elsewhere in the universe might in some ways be > useful and interesting in itself. > > > Proving a negative over an infinite field sounds like a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 2:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: Finding absolutely no life elsewhere in the universe might in some ways be useful and interesting in itself. Proving a negative over an infinite field sounds like a fools errand. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Brent Meeker wrote: ​> ​ > It doesn't have to be a disaster. It might just be that the lesson of > relativity becomes widely appreciated, that the universe is large and the > speed limit is low. > To a super civilization one von ​ Neumann

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 5:31:41 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/3/2018 9:33 AM, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 10:00 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, > wrote: On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: ​>> ​ **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 9:33 AM, John Clark wrote: On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell >wrote: ​> ​ We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/3/2018 8:44 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: That program has been revealed to be the child of Harry Reid, Senator from Nevada. At the request of Bigelow, who is advancing the idea of big inflated habitable modules in space, this program germinated. Bigelow is interested

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:33:04 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >> fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 10:33:04 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable >> fluke

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 11:00:51 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >>> ​>> ​ >>> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE EVIDENCE

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:21 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: > > >> ​>> ​ >> **EYEWITNESS EVIDENCE IS THE LEAST SCIENTIFIC/CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THERE >> IS. >> > > ​> ​ > Brilliant. Incredibly brilliant. Thank you. AG > ​I

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread John Clark
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > ​> ​ > We may in fact be little more than a vast almost infinitely improbable > fluke . > ​There is a excellent talk on that very subject at :​

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:28:18 AM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:54:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, January 2,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018 at 8:54:53 AM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread Telmo Menezes
https://xkcd.com/1235/ On Wed, Jan 3, 2018 at 3:54 PM, wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-03 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 7:21:40 PM UTC-7, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread agrayson2000
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018 at 6:36:56 PM UTC-7, Zachary Smith wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Zachary Smith
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:12:51 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/2/2018 3:11 PM, Jason Resch wrote: I think you are assuming the simulation can be deterministic...which it can't. I make no assumptions on this.  Watching life on any random planet evolve should be as illuminating as wandering the cosmos to happen upon a random planet with

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Jason Resch
abundant in the universe and if they persisted they would be very apparent. >>> The lack of such clear evidence suggests that ETs are not widely abundant >>> in the universe, they may not last very long (we may be headed down that >>> path) and if they do exist they

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Brent Meeker
I am partial to the Transcension Hypothesis as an answer to the Fermi Paradox: https://accelerating.org/articles/transcensionhypothesis.html <https://accelerating.org/articles/transcensionhypothesis.html> But wouldn't they explore this universe first? To a Jupiter brain

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Jason Resch
were >> abundant in the universe and if they persisted they would be very apparent. >> The lack of such clear evidence suggests that ETs are not widely abundant >> in the universe, they may not last very long (we may be headed down that >> path) and if they do exist they a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
be very > >> apparent. The lack of such clear evidence suggests that ETs are not > >> widely abundant in the universe, they may not last very long (we may > >> be headed down that path) and if they do exist they are separated by > >> distances far too large for travel a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread smitra
istant for even radio communication. I am partial to the Transcension Hypothesis as an answer to the Fermi Paradox: https://accelerating.org/articles/transcensionhypothesis.html [1] This fictionalized version is a great read: http://frombob.to/you/index.html [2] Jason I think Brent has a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 6:46:07 PM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: > > Lying is not the only explanation for these witness statements. What > these witnesses saw may well have explanations other than ET. One of > my favourites, though obviously rather implausible, is that they are > time

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:16 AM, wrote: > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 5:48:54 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/1/2018 4:16 PM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com >> wrote: >>> >>> >>>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/1/2018 4:16 PM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote:

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Russell Standish
Lying is not the only explanation for these witness statements. What these witnesses saw may well have explanations other than ET. One of my favourites, though obviously rather implausible, is that they are time travellers of some future type of human checking us out. More likely it is some form

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
rsisted they would be very apparent. >> The lack of such clear evidence suggests that ETs are not widely abundant >> in the universe, they may not last very long (we may be headed down that >> path) and if they do exist they are separated by distances far too large >> for travel and

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:29:56 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: >> >>> >>> I know a good deal about physics and a good deal about

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > >> >> I know a good deal about physics and a good deal about people's tendency >> to prevaricate. I see no reason to set any of that aside. If I did

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:47:40 PM UTC-7, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/1/2018 6:36 AM, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: >> >> On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > >> > In fact,

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Brent Meeker
On 1/1/2018 6:36 AM, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the >

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au > > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? >>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 11:13:06 AM UTC-7, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au > > wrote: > > >> ​> ​ >> What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? >>

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au> wrote: > ​> ​ > What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? > ​That is a excellent question! I don't need the Everything List to read about flying saucers, I can pick up a

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread agrayson2000
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 1:14:35 AM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Lawrence Crowell
On Monday, January 1, 2018 at 2:14:35 AM UTC-6, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2018-01-01 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 09:41:33PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > In fact, prior to viewing the video posted, I was convinced that the > incident at Roswell was a balloon from Project Mogul. But the video > convinced me otherwise. AG What did you find so convincing? My scepticism is

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
>> > intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we have received no >>> visitations. >>> > But we have! >>> > Why do you have trouble connecting simple dots? AG >>> > >>> >>> I know what the Fermi paradox is. I was asking why

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
ays...@gmail.com wrote: >> > TL; DW? >> > Read the Wiki link. Fermi found it contradictory that with so many >> presumed >> > intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we have received no >> visitations. >> > But we have! >> > Why do

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 8:18:35 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > It was a test to loft equipment up into the atmosphere to conduct INTEL on > Russia. It was not an alien spacecraft. Please get real. > > LC > We have a difference of opinion. I find the witnesses completely

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Brent Meeker
ith so many presumed > intelligent civilizations in our galaxy, we have received no visitations. > But we have! > Why do you have trouble connecting simple dots? AG > I know what the Fermi paradox is. I was asking why a video about the Roswell "in

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Lawrence Crowell
It was a test to loft equipment up into the atmosphere to conduct INTEL on Russia. It was not an alien spacecraft. Please get real. LC On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 7:56:26 PM UTC-6, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote:

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > > your quest for knowledge. AG > > 15 minutes of undirected

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:38:55 PM UTC-7, Russell Standish wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > > your quest for knowledge. AG > > 15 minutes of undirected

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
On Sunday, December 31, 2017 at 6:11:17 PM UTC-7, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > The fact these people were assigned to intelligence indicates something. > This was a balloon crash. The balloon though carried a payload that was > highly classified. It contained detectors and instruments that

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 05:07:54PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > If 15 minutes exceeds your attention span, maybe you should retire from > your quest for knowledge. AG 15 minutes of undirected "there is something in this 15 minutes of video that I *think* will change your mind

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Lawrence Crowell
The fact these people were assigned to intelligence indicates something. This was a balloon crash. The balloon though carried a payload that was highly classified. It contained detectors and instruments that might detect whether the USSR detonated an atomic bomb. They had not done so up to that

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
ivilizations in our galaxy, we have received no > visitations. > > But we have! > > Why do you have trouble connecting simple dots? AG > > > > I know what the Fermi paradox is. I was asking why a video about the > Roswell "incident" sheds any lig

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
nnecting simple dots? AG > I know what the Fermi paradox is. I was asking why a video about the Roswell "incident" sheds any light on it? TL; DW (too long, didn't watch - by analogy with TL; DR). Cheers --

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread agrayson2000
: > > TL; DW. What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? > > On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 09:06:44PM -0800, agrays...@gmail.com > wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox > > > > https://ww

Re: Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-31 Thread Russell Standish
TL; DW. What the hell does this have to do with the Fermi paradox? On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 09:06:44PM -0800, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf

Fermi Paradox defined and solved (in 15 minutes)

2017-12-28 Thread agrayson2000
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qflfM4DITeU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146 Enjoy. I sure did. I think... Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Telmo Menezes
I think we have a strong contender for an ig nobel award here! On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: http://arxiv.org/abs/1403.8146 Enjoy. I sure did. I think... Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
I started to crack up when they wrote If that doesn't scare the bejeezus out of you then you may need to check your pulse. Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web:

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread Kim Jones
Appeared on April 1 Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au kmjco...@icloud.com Mobile: 0450 963 719 Phone: 02 93894239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com Never let your schooling get in the way of your education - Mark Twain On 2 Apr 2014, at 6:24

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
I meant Morts On 2 April 2014 10:03, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Chateau Mots-Vivants and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. On 2 April 2014 08:24, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I started to crack up when they wrote If that doesn't scare the bejeezus out of you

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
Chateau Mots-Vivants and the mention of the Necronomicon did it for me. On 2 April 2014 08:24, Kim Jones kimjo...@ozemail.com.au wrote: I started to crack up when they wrote If that doesn't scare the bejeezus out of you then you may need to check your pulse. Kim Jones B. Mus. GDTL Email:

Re: Fermi Paradox Zombie Apocalypse

2014-04-01 Thread LizR
Mind you I'm just a *little* disappointed they didn't reference Night on Mispec Moor which is surely where the idea came from originally*. http://www.sffaudio.com/?p=744 PS The trouble with April Fools is that by the time the rest of the world gets around to them, they've been done, dusted and

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