Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 May 2019, at 09:41, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List > wrote: > > Brain itself is a virtual construct generated by consciousness. That is indeed a consequence of mechanism and its logic of self-reference. It is so precise that it can be compared with the observation. A brain, or

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-19 Thread Bruno Marchal
> On 17 May 2019, at 02:59, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 5/11/2019 11:59 PM, smitra wrote: >> On 11-05-2019 22:31, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: >>> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of &

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread Philip Thrift
Something that might be of interest: *On the Quest of Defining Consciousness* Ram Lakhan Pandey Vimal @rlpvimal - https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233955238_On_the_Quest_of_Defining_Consciousness How terms consciousness, qualia etc. relate: -

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
Is not the nuts and seeds per se that keep a consciousness alive. Is what is behind their appearances. Whatever is there, we don't know. We don't know why consciousness needs to interact with other consciousnesses in order to maintain its existence in the current state. On Friday, 17 May 2019

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread Bruce Kellett
On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 5:45 PM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > See Donald Hoffman research. Evolution filters out truth. We don't live in > a "physical" world. We live in an evolutionary world. The world of qualia > we see around us is an

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
See Donald Hoffman research. Evolution filters out truth. We don't live in a "physical" world. We live in an evolutionary world. The world of qualia we see around us is an evolutionary world constructed by consciousness in order to keep itself alive. On Friday, 17 May 2019 04:00:03 UTC+3,

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
Brain itself is a virtual construct generated by consciousness. On Friday, 17 May 2019 02:17:15 UTC+3, smitra wrote: > > > We don't live in the real world, rather in the virtual world generated > by our brains. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-17 Thread Philip Thrift
On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 6:17:15 PM UTC-5, smitra wrote: > > > We don't live in the real world, rather in the virtual world generated > by our brains. Illusions such as optical illusions: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTpvDTWurwg > > auditory illusions such as McGurk effect: > >

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-16 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/11/2019 11:59 PM, smitra wrote: On 11-05-2019 22:31, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, in the sense that consciousness bei

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-16 Thread smitra
On 11-05-2019 22:31, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, in the sense that consciousness being non-local, it can indeed create cases in

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-13 Thread Philip Thrift
ent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily expla

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread Philip Thrift
>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >>>>> >>>>> How do A

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread John Clark
On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 2:08 AM 'Cosmin Visan' < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> Sorry dude, your ignorance doesn't stand for lack of evidence. There is > plenty of evidence. And I will not even bother showing it to a woo woo like > you.* > You are a stereotypical internet fool, a

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread Philip Thrift
at 6:52:36 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread Philip Thrift
t; >> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wro

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
We've already discussed Dean Radin and Greg Stone years ago.  They made fantastic claims of mental powers too, but like present company, when challlenged to put up or shut up they could do neither. Brent On 5/11/2019 11:08 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: Sorry dude, your

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-12 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
Sorry dude, your ignorance doesn't stand for lack of evidence. There is plenty of evidence. And I will not even bother showing it to a woo woo like you. On Sunday, 12 May 2019 02:18:44 UTC+3, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > My my, this list has started to be dominated by woo woo. There is no >

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, in the sense that conscio

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Philip Thrift
>> >> >> On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >>> >>> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of >>> consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily >>> explainable,

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/11/2019 4:16 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:29:20 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 4:31 PM 'Cosmin Visan' List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > > *> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?* >> > > That's easily explained.

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 4:31 PM 'Cosmin Visan' List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: *> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?* > That's easily explained. Millions of people are unscientific enough to believe in the virgin birth, the infallibility

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:31 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >> >> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Lawrence Crowell
11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of > consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily > explainable, in the sense that consciousness being non-local, it can indeed >

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 6:06:17 PM UTC-5, telmo wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 23:45, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 23:45, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: >> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of >> consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/11/2019 3:45 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, in the

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 23:21, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: > > > On 5/11/2019 1:31 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: >> How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? > > Tell me what book I'm thinking of and I'll tell you how expl

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sat, May 11, 2019, at 21:31, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: > How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of > consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, > in the sense that consciousness being non-local

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread Philip Thrift
On Saturday, May 11, 2019 at 3:31:19 PM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote: > > How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of > consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily > explainable, in the sense that consciousness being non-local, it ca

Re: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List
On 5/11/2019 1:31 PM, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List wrote: How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? Tell me what book I'm thinking of and I'll tell you how explain. However, I do forsee your failure (as does my laptop). Brent In the case of consciousness <&

How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ?

2019-05-11 Thread 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List
How do AI fanboys explain telepathy and precognition ? In the case of consciousness <> AI, telepathy and precognition are more easily explainable, in the sense that consciousness being non-local, it can indeed create cases in which spatially and temporally separated consciousne