Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-02 Thread Richard Ruquist
Wow, a couple of "twinkly encapsulations" that I was not even aware of. On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 1:45 AM, wrote: > > > On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:28:15 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:06:21 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, June 1,

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread ghibbsa
On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:28:15 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:06:21 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday, June 1, 2014 10:43:14 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: >>> >>> On 2 June 2014 03:50, wrote: >>> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread ghibbsa
On Monday, June 2, 2014 1:06:21 AM UTC+1, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Sunday, June 1, 2014 10:43:14 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: >> >> On 2 June 2014 03:50, wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote: On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch wro

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread ghibbsa
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 10:43:14 PM UTC+1, Liz R wrote: > > On 2 June 2014 03:50, > wrote: > >> On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >>> On May 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: On Wed,

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Another we-almost-got-it-This-time-we-are-in-the-right-track-maybe-in-a-year-or-two-we-will-understand-it-at-last-for-sure Not very related but this image made me laugh: http://bloviatingzeppelin.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Atheism.jpg 2014-05-28 17:23 GMT+02:00, ghib...@gmail.com : > > >

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread Richard Ruquist
My god is a god of the gaps for sure. In this case the gap is the mechanism or magic that reduces a mental MWI block universe to a physical SWI universe. I say that our task is to find that mechanism. Richard On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:43 PM, LizR wrote: > On 2 June 2014 03:50, wrote: > >> On

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread LizR
On 2 June 2014 03:50, wrote: > On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >>> On May 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM, jason...@gmail.com >> > wrote: >>> Richa

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-06-01 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:40:39 PM UTC+1, yanniru wrote: > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jason Resch > wrote: > >> >> >> On May 29, 2014, at 12:11 AM, Richard Ruquist > > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:45 PM, jason...@gmail.com >> < jason...@gmail.com > wrote: >>

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Richard Ruquist
e aspect of the future universe- like Liebniz proposed. Much of what God accomplishes might be replaced by algorithmic mechanism within comp. Richard Jason Jason > > > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Richard Ruquist" < yann...@gmail.com> > To: < everything-list@

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Jason Resch
On May 29, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Kim Jones wrote: On 29 May 2014, at 4:58 pm, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: Comp is not just testable, it is improvable, but to play fair the game, and keep the comp qualia/quanta distinction, the improvement should not just be based with the experimental facts,

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Jason Resch
son Jason - Reply message - From: "Richard Ruquist" To: Subject: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to Date: Wed, May 28, 2014 2:39 PM Bruno, I do not like comp in the form that it predicts MWI, that is Everett's reality. My perspective is based on belief

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread ghibbsa
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 8:47:00 AM UTC+1, Kim Jones wrote: > > > > > On 29 May 2014, at 4:58 pm, ghi...@gmail.com wrote: > > Comp is not just testable, it is improvable, but to play fair the game, >> and keep the comp qualia/quanta distinction, the improvement should not >> just be based wit

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 May 2014, at 08:58, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43:13 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: Nice post! Interesting, and indeed very reasonable with comp, in its expectable natural realizations. I agree on points on salvia too, except that salvia's reports witnes

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
the formula of Löb, describes already a form of working "placebo/wishful-thinking", amazingly enough). Bruno Richard Jason - Reply message - From: "Richard Ruquist" To: Subject: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to Date: Wed, May 28, 2014 2:39 PM

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Richard, On 28 May 2014, at 21:39, Richard Ruquist wrote: Bruno, I do not like comp in the form that it predicts MWI, that is Everett's reality. OK. That's a key point indeed. With comp it might be even worst, as we have only "many-dreams", and it is an open question if those dreams

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Kim Jones
On 29 May 2014, at 4:58 pm, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: >> Comp is not just testable, it is improvable, but to play fair the game, and >> keep the comp qualia/quanta distinction, the improvement should not just be >> based with the experimental facts, but with the arithmetical formulation of >>

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-29 Thread Samiya Illias
Can you please repost your objections to MWI? Even I don't think it can be correct, but I would like to read your take on it. Thanks! Samiya > On 29-May-2014, at 11:58 am, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: > > > >> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43:13 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Nice post!

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread ghibbsa
On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:43:13 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Nice post! > > Interesting, and indeed very reasonable with comp, in its expectable > natural realizations. I agree on points on salvia too, except that salvia's > reports witness extreme asymmetrical phenomena, which sugg

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Ruquist
gt; only in aggregate contain all possible universes? > Neither is religiously acceptable Richard > Jason > > > > - Reply message - > From: "Richard Ruquist" > To: > Subject: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to > Date: Wed, May 2

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread jasonre...@gmail.com
: "Richard Ruquist" To: Subject: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to Date: Wed, May 28, 2014 2:39 PM Bruno, I do not like comp in the form that it predicts MWI, that is Everett's reality. My perspective is based on belief, indeed religious belief that the unive

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread Richard Ruquist
Bruno, I do not like comp in the form that it predicts MWI, that is Everett's reality. My perspective is based on belief, indeed religious belief that the universe is singular and that somehow a single quantum state is selected in each interaction from the assortment that can be rigorously calcula

Re: study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread Bruno Marchal
Nice post! Interesting, and indeed very reasonable with comp, in its expectable natural realizations. I agree on points on salvia too, except that salvia's reports witness extreme asymmetrical phenomena, which suggests some disconnection between the left brain and the right brain. Of cou

study of salvia reportage - brain region pointed to

2014-05-28 Thread ghibbsa
- they were more likely to believe they were in an environment completely different from the physical space they were actually in -> sounds familiar - they often believed to be interacting with "beings" such as hallucinated dead people, aliens, fairies or mythical creatur