Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2012, at 17:48, John Clark wrote: If the nothing of a vacuum is really full of potentials, If you insist on the strictest definition of nothing which is not even the potential of producing anything, then even God Himself could not produce something from nothing; and this line

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 04.05.2012 23:45 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: ... I'm not saying that science and religion are on an equal footing, but I think it's a just-so-story to account for it by assuming that religion must be easier to master and therefore more

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 4, 5:45 pm, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: You are right that there are different kinds of understanding (to me they fall along the lines of subjective orientation vs objective orientation) but I wouldn't say that one is inherently

Re: A crazy thoughts about structure of Electron.

2012-05-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 5, 12:17 am, socra...@bezeqint.net socra...@bezeqint.net wrote: A crazy thoughts about structure of Electron. =. Electron isn’t a point. Electron has a geometrical form. Maybe not. Maybe we infer geometry because of measurement using geometric instruments. Electron’s geometrical form

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-05 Thread ronaldheld
Does nothing mean zero or the empty set in this thread? Ronald On May 5, 2:52 am, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2012, at 17:48, John Clark wrote: If the nothing of a vacuum is really full of potentials, If you insist on the strictest

Free will in MWI

2012-05-05 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
I have started listening to Beginning of Infinity and joined the discussion list for the book. Right now there is a discussion there Free will in MWI http://groups.google.com/group/beginning-of-infinity/t/b172f0e03d68bcc6 I am at the beginning of the book and I do not know for sure, but from

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread meekerdb
On 5/4/2012 11:59 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 04.05.2012 23:45 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: ... I'm not saying that science and religion are on an equal footing, but I think it's a just-so-story to account for it by assuming that religion must be

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-05 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: So you agree that it is impossible to have something come from nothing. That depends on what you mean by nothing. 1) Lack of matter, a vacuum. 2) Lack of matter and energy 3) Lack of matter and energy and space 4) Lack

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 05.05.2012 18:08 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 11:59 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 04.05.2012 23:45 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: ... I'm not saying that science and religion are on an equal footing, but I think it's a just-so-story to

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread meekerdb
On 5/5/2012 11:05 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 05.05.2012 18:08 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 11:59 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 04.05.2012 23:45 meekerdb said the following: On 5/4/2012 2:18 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: ... I'm not saying that science and religion are on an equal

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-05 Thread John Mikes
Is it so hard to understand a word? * - N O T H I N G - *is not a set of anything, no potential, no vacuum, no borders or characteristics just nothin'. There is 'nothing' in it means an it - measureable and sizable. Folks-talk refers usually to a lack of a material content. I agree with Bruno:

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 05.05.2012 20:30 meekerdb said the following: On 5/5/2012 11:05 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... According to Collingwood (as Prof Hoenen has told) one can find a reason in Christianity. First, it is monotheism and this is quite important to infer inexorable scientific laws. Second trinity.

Re: The Brain Minds Whether We Believe in Free Will or Not

2012-05-05 Thread meekerdb
On 5/5/2012 1:07 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: On 05.05.2012 20:30 meekerdb said the following: On 5/5/2012 11:05 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote: ... According to Collingwood (as Prof Hoenen has told) one can find a reason in Christianity. First, it is monotheism and this is quite important to infer

Re: Why is there something rather than nothing?

2012-05-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On May 5, 1:51 pm, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote: So you agree that it is impossible to have something come from nothing. That depends on what you mean by nothing. 1) Lack of matter, a vacuum. 2) Lack of