Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Apr 2014, at 20:08, meekerdb wrote: On 4/6/2014 12:40 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2014, at 06:47, meekerdb wrote: On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/5/2014 3:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 06 Apr 2014, at 20:36, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 6:47 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/5/2014 4:18 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 1:04 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/5/2014 3:54 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Sure, I also

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Apr 2014, at 00:18, John Mikes wrote: Samiya Illias, you took up an honorable position and will be rewarded for it in the afterlife - if there is an afterlife. Well, let us hope, but this assumes not just that there is an afterlife, but a rewarding sort of abramanic God. A

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Apr 2014, at 04:33, LizR wrote: I'm not sure what I did wrong that led to this thread being immediately hijacked by religion - surely the possibility of crows exhibiting a similar type of intelligence to humans (albeit in a lesser degree) is a more interesting subject than some

Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread spudboy100
Let's agree its a real problem, but it's also an opportunity for more control. Or should we be good with handing control of the internet, as well, to the UN? What is the remediation for this problem and how long will it take to implement? -Original Message- From: chris peck

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 07 Apr 2014, at 12:20, Kim Jones wrote: On 7 Apr 2014, at 6:03 pm, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I can't open the page http://www.angelfire.com/ca/sanmateoissues/DarkMatt.html because the server where this page is located isn't responding. Well, that's what my browser

Re: Climate models

2014-04-07 Thread John Clark
On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote: 150GW * 8670 (hours/year) Actually 24 times 365 is 8760 not 8670; Okay... get picky about very small details dude, You're the one who wanted to do the math, and when I've been shown unambiguously to be

Re: Climate models

2014-04-07 Thread Chris de Morsella
From: John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 7, 2014 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Climate models On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Chris de Morsella cdemorse...@yahoo.comwrote: 150GW * 8670 (hours/year)  

Re: Video of VCR

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:13:09 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Apr 2014, at 19:09, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 4, 2014 2:07:47 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 Apr 2014, at 03:40, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Thursday, April 3, 2014 2:34:06 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal

Re: Climate models

2014-04-07 Thread spudboy100
People, wisely or unwisely, are fearful of nuclear fission, even if it's from the thorium 232/uranium 233 fuel cycle. Perhaps this will change, perhaps magnetic or inertial confinement fusion will arrive on the scene in a commercial sense soon. Maybe. The climate change advocates are claiming

Re: Video of VCR

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
Another part 2 On Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:13:09 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Apr 2014, at 19:09, Craig Weinberg wrote: I keep explaining that arithmetic seen from inside escapes somehow the mathematics accessible to the machine. No need to keep explaining, I

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Saturday, April 5, 2014 3:42:10 PM UTC-4, Kim Jones wrote: On 6 Apr 2014, at 2:23 am, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: It's just showing you that your awareness extends beyond your personal definition of here and now Finally you got to it. It was a

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 1:13:44 AM UTC-4, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:42:10AM +1000, Kim Jones wrote: Finally you got to it. It was a precognitive dream. I have had many, an enormous number throughout my life in fact, so I don't think we need to beat about

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:45:35 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other things. (I will not insert here these funny videos of people failing to recognize a

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Sunday, April 6, 2014 3:13:27 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 06 Apr 2014, at 07:13, Russell Standish wrote: On Sun, Apr 06, 2014 at 05:42:10AM +1000, Kim Jones wrote: Finally you got to it. It was a precognitive dream. I have had many, an enormous number throughout my

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2014-04-07 22:25 GMT+02:00 Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com: On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:45:35 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other things. (I will not

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, April 7, 2014 4:38:42 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: 2014-04-07 22:25 GMT+02:00 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: : On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:45:35 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but that

RE: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread chris peck
Brent If most scientists in a field agree on something, I count that as evidence in favor of their position. I don't see how it can be, the fact that scientists agree about relativity isn't a fact that has any information content about relativity. Its at best a dubious kind of 'evidence by

Re: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
Sorry when I said you I didn't mean you specifically, I meant generically - one would have been better. I shall try to paraphrase myself in an attempt to better express what I was trying to say. Hence, people who claim that scientists agree because of some reason other than looking at the

Re: Daphne du Maurier was right!

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
On 7 April 2014 21:30, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: No, I don't agree with the 'sentencing to death' for blasphemy. Quoting from my own blog (the link I sent earlier): 16:93 If Allah so willed, He could make you all one people: But He leaves straying whom He pleases, and He

Re: Climate models

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
On 7 April 2014 17:37, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 4/6/2014 9:56 PM, LizR wrote: On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King stephe...@provensecure.comwrote: Hi Liz, Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker

Re: Climate models

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
On 8 April 2014 07:53, spudboy...@aol.com wrote: People, wisely or unwisely, are fearful of nuclear fission, even if it's from the thorium 232/uranium 233 fuel cycle. Perhaps this will change, perhaps magnetic or inertial confinement fusion will arrive on the scene in a commercial sense soon.

RE: If you can't disprove the science, you can always try suing

2014-04-07 Thread chris peck
Hence, people who claim that scientists agree because of some reason other than looking at the instruments and using their best theories to interpret the readings - e.g. people who claim that they agree for some psychological reason, e.g. because they all adhere to some paradigm - are

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread Pierz
I used to keep a dream diary Liz, and one day when I was looking back through my old dreams, I came across this, from October 1998: I am in with a crowd of people in some kind of tall building in what I think is New York. It's one of two similar buildings. We are looking out the window when I

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
Wow. I'm going to have to read that article posted earlier on this thread when I get time (I tried to print it but the printer here at work is out of toner :( This is more the sort of response I was hoping for (for or against). On 8 April 2014 14:29, Pierz pier...@gmail.com wrote: I used to

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
On 6 April 2014 18:45, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote: Probably you saw people visiting houses in your neighbourhood, but that did not reached consciousnees you were busy thinking about other things. (I will not insert here these funny videos of people failing to recognize a bear

Re: My scepticism took a small knock today

2014-04-07 Thread LizR
On 8 April 2014 09:41, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, April 7, 2014 4:38:42 PM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: 2014-04-07 22:25 GMT+02:00 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com: On Sunday, April 6, 2014 2:45:35 AM UTC-4, Alberto G.Corona wrote: Probably you saw people