Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 6:14 PM, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 , Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: True, and most people have never even heard of the Turing Test, but every human being who has ever lived has implicitly assumed that if something

The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread John Clark
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXEddCLW3SM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Humans apply pressure on the floor when standing up, so Evolution is responsible for mass and gravity? No, but Evolution is responsible for the fact that humans can stand up, or that humans can do anything at all for that

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
On 3/13/2015 10:06 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:44 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/13/2015 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net

Regulate AI?

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
From the Machine Intelligence Research Institute: /Bill Hibbard is an Emeritus Senior Scientist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison Space Science and Engineering Center, currently working on issues of AI safety and unintended behaviors. He has a BA in Mathematics and MS and PhD in Computer

Fwd: What deep learning means for artificial intelligence (Jonathan Mugan)

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
It also illustrates JKC's dictum that intelligence is hard. Brent Forwarded Message A nicely done, high-level slide presentation: http://www.slideshare.net/jmugan/deep-learningforartificialintelligence -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
On 3/13/2015 10:26 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: or under anesthesia I'm not conscious You can't prove that. That's an assumption. That's logic chopping. There's a big gap between proven and assumed. In fact all of science works in that gap. It's called knowledge and it is provided by

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread John Clark
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 , Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: True, and most people have never even heard of the Turing Test, but every human being who has ever lived has implicitly assumed that if something behaves intelligently then it is conscious, Perhaps every human, perhaps

RE: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
You really do hate environmentalists don’t you John. From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Clark Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 11:35 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: The world's most environmentally friendly car

RE: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
Are you proposing we laugh our way through the greatest extinction event since the dinosaurs bought it some sixty million years ago…. As we degrade and destroy this planet’s biosphere and the ecological systems that have evolved within it, in a mere flash of time called the oil age. These are

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: the greatest extinction event since the dinosaurs bought it some sixty million years ago I hate it when that happens. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread Terren Suydam
Having to explain the value of having a sense of humor about things, even serious things, is like explaining a joke and hoping it's still funny. But being able to find humor in the midst of a dark situation is one of the most valuable internal resources one can have. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:19

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Humor is destructive for sectarians. Humor is connected with a deep common sense of what is ridiculous and ridiculous is anything whose claims are against reality. It connects immediately with the inner sense of any other person. There is only two possible reactions: laugh or anger but the

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread Terren Suydam
Oh c'mon, that was hilarious. Lighten up willya. On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 3:35 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: You really do hate environmentalists don’t you John. *From:* everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
On 3/13/2015 12:35 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: You really do hate environmentalists don’t you John. Hey, it's The Onion. It's like I tell vegans,The most environmentally friendly diet is cannabilism. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Re: The world's most environmentally friendly car

2015-03-13 Thread PGC
On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:58:10 PM UTC+1, Alberto G.Corona wrote: Humor is destructive for sectarians. Especially for the admittedly special case of the humor sectarians though; i.e. people or machines who appear to know what is funny or not in some situation. Those are the worst

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea that rocks are not conscious. If you ever have an operation, I suggest you check to see that your

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 13 Mar 2015, at 08:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea that rocks are not conscious. If you ever have an operation, I

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 12 Mar 2015, at 20:16, John Clark wrote: On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: I have two theory of intelligence: That's one too many. I think they imply themselves. The second is a particular case of the first. It is an antic theory, not so

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread meekerdb
On 3/13/2015 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net mailto:meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea that rocks are not conscious.

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 13 Mar 2015, at 08:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by

Re: Michael Graziano's theory of consciousness

2015-03-13 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 5:44 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/13/2015 12:19 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the