On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 13 Mar 2015, at 08:19, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:25 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 3/12/2015 1:21 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> >> Not me. I'm the opposite, I was always confused by the idea that rocks >> are not conscious. >> >> >> If you ever have an operation, I suggest you check to see that your >> anesthesiologist is not confused. >> > > There's maybe a difference between being a conscious entity and being > conscious of something. > > > > Does not consciousness entails the consciousness of at least one thing? > > Even before speculating about an entity (the future "little ego") > consciousness seems reflexive to me, before verbalizing. > > It is the fixed point of the doubt. If we try to doubt everything, we find > the indubitable but non justifiable knowledge of one thing. > My intuitive impression (from some attempts at meditating, for example) is that consciousness can exist in a completely self-referential state. But I am not certain of this at all. I think this is inline with what you say above, and with "cogito ergo sum". > > I think. > > You might say it is not a consciousness *of* something. I might have > missed a nuance. > I will clarify what I meant in a reply to Brent, to keep the discussion linear. Telmo. > > Bruno > > > > Telmo. > > >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
