Re: Holiday Exercise

On Friday, 5 August 2016, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 05 Aug 2016, at 06:27, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 8/4/2016 7:40 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On 5 August 2016 at 04:01, Brent Meeker

Re: Step 4? (Re: QUESTION 2 (Re: Holiday Exercise

On 06 Aug 2016, at 20:35, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: ​> ​It was the question 2 which does not involve duplication. Question 2: if I am sure at time t that at time q, q > t, I will be uncertain of the outcome of some

Re: That stupid diary

On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 8:49 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Telmo Menezes > wrote: > > >> > >> I am asking if you think that, for computationalism to be true, the >> diaries of the duplicates must be equal even after the

Re: If you win the lottery, don't expect to live the rest of your life as a millionaire

On 06 Aug 2016, at 22:13, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/6/2016 10:12 AM, smitra wrote: On 05-08-2016 01:08, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2016-08-04 19:20 GMT+02:00 smitra : On 04-08-2016 03:05, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/3/2016 4:30 PM, smitra wrote: On 04-08-2016 01:16, Brent

Re: If you win the lottery, don't expect to live the rest of your life as a millionaire

On 06 Aug 2016, at 19:12, smitra wrote: On 05-08-2016 01:08, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2016-08-04 19:20 GMT+02:00 smitra : On 04-08-2016 03:05, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/3/2016 4:30 PM, smitra wrote: On 04-08-2016 01:16, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/3/2016 4:09 PM, smitra wrote: On

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 06 Aug 2016, at 20:00, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/6/2016 4:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: If we think about engineering an autonomous being it becomes obvious that this is a good architecture. Decision making should be hierarchical with only a few requiring system-wide consideration.

Re: ​Computationalism​

Dear John, On 06 Aug 2016, at 22:03, John Mikes wrote: Dear Bruno, in my agnosticism computationalism (as so many other 'concepts' and 'processes') is (are?) figments of the human thinking (logic? imagination? or 'views' how we try to explain the mostly unknowable infinite Entirety) -

Re: ​Computationalism​

On 06 Aug 2016, at 21:39, John Clark wrote: ​Don't be ridiculous, I'm not in a insane asylum so I understand what a first person view is, although I don't understand what THE first person view is in a world with person duplicating machines, and you understand it even less well than I do.

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 07 Aug 2016, at 01:24, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 7/08/2016 9:00 am, Russell Standish wrote: On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 07:51:22PM +1000, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/08/2016 6:00 pm, Bruce Kellett wrote: On 4/08/2016 5:52 pm, Russell Standish wrote: Methinks you are unnecessarily assuming

Re: Holiday Exercise

On Sunday, August 7, 2016 at 4:27:56 PM UTC+2, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 06 Aug 2016, at 20:00, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > C. An UD will realize all possible computation, and hence the totality of > reality. > > > > Brent, please reread the UDA. > Perhaps but perhaps you should reread it.

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 8/08/2016 1:30 am, Bruno Marchal wrote: But in step 3, I ma very careful to not use the notion of "consciousness", and instead a simple 3p notion of first person. usually many relates it two consciousness and assumes that when the guy say "I see Moscow", they are conscious, but that is

"We spent a long time trying to convince ourselves this wasn’t real"

What do you guys think of this? http://gizmodo.com/the-so-called-alien-megastructure-just-got-even-more-my-1784883811?utm_campaign=socialflow_io9_facebook_source=io9_facebook_medium=socialflow Cheers Telmo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: "We spent a long time trying to convince ourselves this wasn’t real"

What I read yesterday was that the "action" around that star experienced inexplicable rapid acceleration. Its probably too good to be true that we have another intelligent species within our galaxy. Something will get re-evaluated, or star materials will get an explanation that is natural.

Re: "We spent a long time trying to convince ourselves this wasn’t real"

On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 8:45 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: > What I read yesterday was that the "action" around that star experienced > inexplicable rapid acceleration. Its probably too good to be true that we > have another intelligent species within

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 07 Aug 2016, at 15:06, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On Friday, 5 August 2016, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 Aug 2016, at 06:27, Brent Meeker wrote: On 8/4/2016 7:40 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: On 5 August 2016 at 04:01, Brent Meeker

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 8/7/2016 7:27 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: So I suggest that instead of starting with the hypothesis that consciousness is a computation, Please, I insist that consciousness is NOT a computation. Consciousness is an 1p notion, and you cannot identify it with *any* 3p. But then you must

Re: "We spent a long time trying to convince ourselves this wasn’t real"

The same, though I believe the old religions would be taking on cosmological attributes. It might pep up religions rather then dissolve them. I am guessing that UFO watching would take on a more serious bent, because who knows, the neighbors might be watching. Scifi would be revived. I am

Re: Holiday Exercise

On 8/7/2016 11:20 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: Not necessarily. A digital computer also requires that time be digitized so that its registers run synchronously. Otherwise "the state" is ill defined. The finite speed of light means that spacially separated regions cannot be synchronous. Even