Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 2/8/2020 2:12 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: It is an indexical theory. The problem is that in MWI there will always be

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 2/8/2020 3:21 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:48 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 2/8/2020 2:12 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:08 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/8/2020 3:21 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:48 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 2/8/2020 2:12 PM,

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:26 PM Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > No. For to make such a guess would be to assume a dualist model of > personal identity: viz., that I have an immortal soul that is not > duplicated with my body, but assigned at

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 10:21 AM Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 09:13, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> >>> >>> It is

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 2/8/2020 6:53 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: But it is implicit, or even explicit in Bruno's model. It's also consistent with Barbour's model. It can be consistent with as many models as you like. It is simply not Everettian QM. It is some ad hoc concoction that totally undermines

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 2:33 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/8/2020 6:53 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > But it is implicit, or even explicit in Bruno's model. It's also >> consistent with Barbour's model. >> > > It can be consistent with as

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 5:48 PM Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:26 PM Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >> >>> On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: >>> >>> >>> No. For to make such a guess would be to assume a

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 15:43, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 3:26 PM Stathis Papaioannou > wrote: > >> On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> >> No. For to make such a guess would be to assume a dualist model of >> personal identity: viz., that I have an immortal

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

> On 9 Feb 2020, at 13:42, Bruce Kellett wrote: > >  >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 10:21 AM Stathis Papaioannou >> wrote: >>> On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 09:13, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM,

Re: Connectional physics

On the "unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics" I approach this - as you know - ala *Hartry Field*: https://as.nyu.edu/content/nyu-as/as/faculty/hartry-field.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartry_Field *Field holds that the existence of sets

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 at 09:13, Bruce Kellett wrote: > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> >> It is an indexical theory. The problem is that in MWI there will always >>

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 9:48 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/8/2020 2:12 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > >> On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM,

Re: Connectional physics

On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 06:44:16AM -0800, Philip Thrift wrote: > > Connectional physics > > Some have written on how the connectional (neural network) approach will not > rival the traditional equational ( https://inews.co.uk/news/science/ >

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:57:24 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 12:28 PM Lawrence Crowell > wrote: > >> On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:10:54 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 11:51 AM Lawrence Crowell < >>> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 11:54:24 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:41 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < > everyth...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> On 2/7/2020 8:14 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 1:26 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < >>

Observables in QM must be non-commutable

What's the justification? This has been discussed before, many moons ago on the Avoid list, posed by me, but I didn't get it. Not the first time. LOL. TIA, AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group

Connectional physics

Connectional physics Some have written on how the connectional (neural network) approach will not rival the traditional equational ( https://inews.co.uk/news/science/this-is-the-equation-stephen-hawking-wanted-on-his-tombstone-323699 ) approach, but then why should nature necessarily be

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 10:19:58 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: A stochastic single-world theory is perfectly able to account for what we > see. > > Bruce > *Victor Stenger* said this from the time I first connected with him over 20 years ago. It is rare to find any physicist in popular

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 5:39 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: On 2/7/2020 9:54 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Sat, Feb 8, 2020 at 4:41 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 2:33 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/8/2020 6:53 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > But it is implicit, or even explicit in Bruno's model. It's also >> consistent with Barbour's model. >> > > It can be consistent with as

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Saturday, February 8, 2020 at 1:38:05 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > > ?? MWI is just an interpretation. > Most of what I read in the Everett context refers to a* theory*: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-everett/ : Hugh Everett III’s relative-state formulation of quantum mechanics

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

The problem of SW theories is that they had to postulate measurement as special kind of random event, which seemed at first to be defined only in relation to the mind of the measurer.   So it got tangled up with the mind-body problem.  This was largely relieved by decoherence theory which

Re: Connectional physics

It seems to me that our brains and those of other animals developed at NN and via evolution and experience learned from examples (i.e. natural selection).  Humans diverged from this by developing language and symbolic representations, which led to reasoning via imagination and modeling.  But

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

One stochastic single-world theory recently in arXiv: https://arxiv.org/abs/1809.10427 : Evolving Realities for Quantum Measure Theory Henry Wilkes (Submitted on 27 Sep 2018) We introduce and explore Rafael Sorkin's

Re: Connectional physics

These references have nothing to do really with biological brains. Modeling the human brain is not their purpose at all. Their purpose is tho see where the *connectional paradigm* (aka artificial neural networks - within the practice of computer science machine learning) can lead to in doing

Re: Postulate: Everything that CAN happen, MUST happen.

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 6:38 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On 2/7/2020 11:00 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > > It is an indexical theory. The problem is that in MWI there will always be > observers who see the sequences that are improbable