Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
Alberto, I agree with what you say below. In fact evolution needs arguably to presuppose computationalism. Computationalism explains that we have to extend the idea of evolution to the origin and development of the physical objects and laws, which will be used "later" by evolution. The laws

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-11 Thread Alberto G. Corona
http://nocorrecto.blogspot.com.es/2011/11/why-women-like-bags-and-shoes-but-only.html 2013/12/11, Alberto G. Corona : > Not a bad achievement. > > Instead, the hypothesis that the living beings compute in order to > solve evolutionary pressures is closer to the Plato world of ideas, Or > specifica

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-11 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Not a bad achievement. Instead, the hypothesis that the living beings compute in order to solve evolutionary pressures is closer to the Plato world of ideas, Or specifically, the Plato-Aristotle syntesis of Thomas Aquinas. and also closer to dig knowledge for living, that it , at last, the purpose

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Dec 2013, at 23:38, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Thanks for the clarification. You are welcome. But for what refer to the questions i asked, I find that my initial assumptions are broadly correct. I find the platonism of the UDA very different from the Platonism of Plato. It is more p

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
Thanks for the clarification. But for what refer to the questions i asked, I find that my initial assumptions are broadly correct. I find the platonism of the UDA very different from the Platonism of Plato. despite the merits that the hypothesis of mechanism may have to clarify other questions. 2

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Dec 2013, at 12:15, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2013/12/10 Bruno Marchal On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It seems to me that your invocation of platonism is wrong. For Plato the reality is a shadow of the perfect world of ideas, universals that we can "remember"

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2013/12/10 Bruno Marchal > > On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > > It seems to me that your invocation of platonism is wrong. For Plato the >> reality is a shadow of the perfect world of ideas, universals that we can >> "remember" by anamnesis. >> > > OK. > > > > >> But for you

Re: Bruno against Plato

2013-12-10 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 10 Dec 2013, at 10:40, Alberto G. Corona wrote: It seems to me that your invocation of platonism is wrong. For Plato the reality is a shadow of the perfect world of ideas, universals that we can "remember" by anamnesis. OK. But for you reality is a partial dream, Not at all. Only

Bruno against Plato

2013-12-10 Thread Alberto G. Corona
It seems to me that your invocation of platonism is wrong. For Plato the reality is a shadow of the perfect world of ideas, universals that we can "remember" by anamnesis. But for you reality is a partial dream, but coherent or "robust" product of the aleatory Dovetailer Machine, and sometimes we