On 9/26/2012 4:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Isn't the self 1p ? not sure.
The self is 1p, by definition.
Hmm The self obtained by the Dx = "xx" method is entirely 3p, and
is the one usually denoted by Gödel's predicate: Bp.
To get the 1p, we connect it to truth, which makes sense as
On 26 Sep 2012, at 00:30, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/25/2012 8:26 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I don't deny that a computer can optimize itself,
but I deny that the operation is autonomous,
meaning independent, for ultimately it is software
dependent, using a program written by
On 9/25/2012 6:48 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/25/2012 3:44 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/25/2012 3:33 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/25/2012 12:24 PM, William R. Buckley wrote:
From:everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-
>l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough
>Sent: Tuesday,
On 9/25/2012 3:44 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
On 9/25/2012 3:33 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/25/2012 12:24 PM, William R. Buckley wrote:
From:everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-
> l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:26 AM
> To:
So suppose there is a choice to be made. A or B. Is there software that
enables the computer to independently choose A or B.
What about a neural network of many "nodes" and "connections" that has been
through many epochs to the point where its outputs perfectly
*resemble*pseudorandom number sequen
On 9/25/2012 3:33 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/25/2012 12:24 PM, William R. Buckley wrote:
From:everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-
>l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough
>Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:26 AM
>To: everything-list
>Subject: Can a computer make indepe
On 9/25/2012 8:26 AM, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi Stephen P. King
I don't deny that a computer can optimize itself,
but I deny that the operation is autonomous,
meaning independent, for ultimately it is software
dependent, using a program written by an outsider.
Hi Roger,
Please think a while
On 9/25/2012 12:24 PM, William R. Buckley wrote:
From:everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-
> l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:26 AM
> To: everything-list
> Subject: Can a computer make independent choices ?
>
> Hi Steph
Roger:
Please then describe for us in detail however painstaking
that model of consciousness which you hold, and your means
of determining intelligence. That is, present for us in
clear text your measures; the waving of hands is specifically
disallowed as an offering of answer to this challen
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