On 9/25/2012 12:24 PM, William R. Buckley wrote:
From:everything-list@googlegroups.com  [mailto:everything-
>  l...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger Clough
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:26 AM
>  To: everything-list
>  Subject: Can a computer make independent choices ?
> > Hi Stephen P. King > > I don't deny that a computer can optimize itself,
>  but I deny that the operation is autonomous,
>  meaning independent, for ultimately it is software
>  dependent, using a program written by an outsider.
>  True intelligence and true consciousness must be
>  to whatever extent possible independent of outside
>  help or perspective.

Which just means the learned component of behavior should be big compared to the built-in component. Just as we don't think of animals as intelligent when they simply follow instincts but we do think them intelligent when they learn things.

Brent

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